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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by jamesrcole »

patrickdavey wrote: post #160

Anyone on here is probably one of the tech influencers for their family group. I've just started the work of trying to get people to move onto using Signal. I really really like the ethos of the organisation. I don't see how there's any downside (other than the time of getting people to switch). Wouldn't it be great if, as a start, everyone moved to a secure not-going-to-sell-your-data organisation for instant messag…

> I don't see how there's any downside (other than the time of getting people to switch).

Network effects. It's hard to switch if not all of your contacts also switch.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by freyir »

juststeve wrote: post #161
freyir wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook has been actively targeting developing countries that lack Internet infrastructure. They offer a walled garden consisting of Facebook and a few other sites for free. They initially called it Internet.org, but it’s since been renamed Free Basics. I guess the concern is that people will confuse Facebook for the Internet, and they’ll think they’re getting the Internet for free. It then becomes very difficult fo…

you got a link?

https://info.internet.org/en/story/free-basics-from-internet...

I don’t know if they have “monopolies”, as OP claimed, but these are the countries where they operate:

https://info.internet.org/en/story/where-weve-launched/

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by tunesmith »

mr_spothawk wrote: post #30
lowglow wrote: post #15

I asked a friend if they would pay $1/mo for a facebook alternative, and they said no -- they would just start using instagram. When I explained facebook owned instagram, they still didn't think $1/mo would be worth it, citing: "It's just another thing I have to pay per month: Netflix, Spotify, etc." People have mental budgets, and maybe their psychological good will in balancing those budgets get drained over time f…

this is already a grey comment for me, but I think your message is relevant. People need "friends" and they get them where they can. As a society, we deserve and owe our selves better than this. There are FOSS alternatives which are nearly as good. This is as fine a time as any to turn up the pressure on our friends, and to work for solutions that don't/can't sell us out (intentionally, or accidentally).

What are the alternatives again? So far I'm hearing mastodon (more twitterish), riot/matrix (more slackish), diaspora, email, and starting a blog.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by patrickdavey »

jamesrcole wrote: post #171
patrickdavey wrote: post #160

Anyone on here is probably one of the tech influencers for their family group. I've just started the work of trying to get people to move onto using Signal. I really really like the ethos of the organisation. I don't see how there's any downside (other than the time of getting people to switch). Wouldn't it be great if, as a start, everyone moved to a secure not-going-to-sell-your-data organisation for instant messag…

> I don't see how there's any downside (other than the time of getting people to switch). Network effects. It's hard to switch if not all of your contacts also switch.

Absolutely, that's why people like you and me (who care) should put in the effort to try and influence those around them. Once enough people do it, and once it's cool to do it, it'll happen.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by aws_ls »

abakker wrote: post #151
osrec wrote: post #148

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That's how it starts. The clever folk quit first (they also start first) as they can clearly identify with their intrinsic dislike of the platform. The less clever take a little while longer to realise how much they're hating it too, often getting suckered by cheap tricks used by the platform to keep them hooked. They will figure it out soon enough though! I think I'll probably start shorting some Facebook stock in t…

You might have missed the short opportunity. Better go long on whatever you think might pick up the slack. I don’t think the void that Facebook leaves will be left unfilled.

If the replacement is a federated social network, then there may be 2/3 large competing players for the interfacing part.

My dream is a cryptocurrency based social network, so that those running p2p nodes can also get paid. Also the end clients can compete with each other for the interface part - dumb/some-algo based (Facebook can also be one of the clients ;-))

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by Jaruzel »

jmspring wrote: post #101
andrei_says_ wrote: post #75

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I highly recommend deleting the fb app from your device to prevent it listening on you, tracking location, draining your battery and bombarding you with notifications. If you must use messenger in mobile, https://mbasic.facebook.com/ works

One can also request the FB site be reloaded as the desktop version - less painful than mbasic.

Does https://touch.facebook.com/ still work ? Last time I checked, it was a halfway house between mbasic and the desktop version.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by john_wang_doe »

TimJRobinson wrote: post #168
cgmg wrote: post #84

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Do you mind sharing what browser extension this is?

Delayed Gratification does this - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/delayed-gratificat...

thank you this is amazing! I can feel the negative response from not getting the dopamine hit
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