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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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>"Their monopoly over internet infrastructure in some developing countries" In which developing countries does Facebook have a "monopoly" over internet infrastructure?

Facebook has been actively targeting developing countries that lack Internet infrastructure. They offer a walled garden consisting of Facebook and a few other sites for free. They initially called it Internet.org, but it’s since been renamed Free Basics. I guess the concern is that people will confuse Facebook for the Internet, and they’ll think they’re getting the Internet for free. It then becomes very difficult fo…

you got a link?

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Anyone on here is probably one of the tech influencers for their family group. I've just started the work of trying to get people to move onto using Signal. I really really like the ethos of the organisation. I don't see how there's any downside (other than the time of getting people to switch). Wouldn't it be great if, as a start, everyone moved to a secure not-going-to-sell-your-data organisation for instant messag…

There's also Secret Conversations[1] which can be used in the Messenger app, that implements the Signal Protocol.

Ideally people should move off Facebook, but I don't think most of people's friends (including mine) care about this event that much.

[1]: https://www.facebook.com/help/messenger-app/1084673321594605

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I'd argue a lot if not probably the majority of users of Facebook are read only. What matters is really whether the minority of users who actively post are leaving or not. These are the most affected by privacy concerns. Once enough of them do, the platform dries out and its end will accelerate.

>What matters is really whether the minority of users who actively post are leaving or not. I see it differently. Looking at it from a stats perspective, people who just login and don't scroll are also pretty valuable for Facebook since they're still come under the DAU and MAU numbers. They're counted for the ad impressions, and subsequently ad revenue. Even though Facebook has prioritized friends' posts, bulk of the…

Obviously passive users are important for FB's bottom line, but I think what GP is saying is that if all the active users leave (even if media companies/pages don't, just the friends who post), it will cause an exodus of passive users.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...

Not to mention most of my non-tech friends have no idea something even just happened with Facebook.

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I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...

Good thing Facebook owns WhatsApp and Instagram. They’ll be fine. Losing a few million won’t hurt since they have > 1 Billion users

also just FB Messenger. I use Messenger almost exclusively to talk to friends in my area. We have other IM options in theory, but end up reaching for Messenger because of how well it works.

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post #159

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>What matters is really whether the minority of users who actively post are leaving or not. I see it differently. Looking at it from a stats perspective, people who just login and don't scroll are also pretty valuable for Facebook since they're still come under the DAU and MAU numbers. They're counted for the ad impressions, and subsequently ad revenue. Even though Facebook has prioritized friends' posts, bulk of the…

Obviously passive users are important for FB's bottom line, but I think what GP is saying is that if all the active users leave (even if media companies/pages don't, just the friends who post), it will cause an exodus of passive users.

Sure, if all will. But most won't, and that won't change things. The 'enough' in GP's comment should pretty much be 80%+, which we all know won't happen.

It's still a great communication tool without the users who post though.

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"The hashtag #DeleteFacebook appeared more than 10,000 times on Twitter within a two-hour period on Wednesday, according to the analytics service ExportTweet. On Tuesday, it was mentioned 40,398 times, according to the analytics service Digimind." Is this really such a big deal for Facebook? Suppose 50000 persons delete their Facebook everyday, then it will just lose 1,825,0000 users one year, not counting new users…

But, how many of those people are active to any meaningful extent? Also, Facebook relies on a critical mass of users; if 75% of my friends leave, I'll probably leave, then large swaths of the social networks begins unthreading?

And here I am like: "If the taste makers leave, I will leave."

jk I've never Facebooked.

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Similar story here: a while back I installed a browser extension to delay the loading of unproductive sites that I was habitually visiting just to distract myself from tasks, imposing a 30 second wait barrier. What it's revealed is that there are some sites that I'm very willing to wait 30 seconds to visit (e.g. if there's a certain song on YouTube that I want to play in the background), but not once have I ever both…

Do you mind sharing what browser extension this is?

Delayed Gratification does this - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/delayed-gratificat...

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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CA scandal is just a final push. I kinda stopped using FB like half a year ago, for that I don't really know what I could get from this platform. Viral videos, nope. Sensationalized editorial with an angry face attached below, nope. Friends having party like no tomorrow, fine. But there are so many of them, and they are kinda repetitive. Since it is public and real name social network, I have to be extra careful shar…

That's how it starts. The clever folk quit first (they also start first) as they can clearly identify with their intrinsic dislike of the platform. The less clever take a little while longer to realise how much they're hating it too, often getting suckered by cheap tricks used by the platform to keep them hooked. They will figure it out soon enough though! I think I'll probably start shorting some Facebook stock in t…

You would think so, but take a look at Herbalife.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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I've started using Scuttlebutt recently (A decentralized social network, setup guide at https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/) and it's surprisingly good.

It's mostly geeks on there, and it'll still be a few years before my Mum can use it, but that's the way I like it. Facebook is mostly just a photo feed of what I'm up to for my family now.

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