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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by visarga »

kccqzy wrote: post #126
dingo_bat wrote: post #115

None of the everyday fb users even know about this. They're just using fb like normal. Only those who were already anit-fb are creating hype.

That's the purpose of news media like The New York Times. At first the already anti-fb people delete their Facebook accounts and create hype, the media reports it (a newspaper in this case), and more ordinary users get to know the trend and would consider doing the same.

> the media reports it (a newspaper in this case), and more ordinary users get to know the trend and would consider doing the same

If FB allows these reports to be shown in their feeds. /s

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by gt_ »

cm2187 wrote: post #83
d--b wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...

I'd argue a lot if not probably the majority of users of Facebook are read only. What matters is really whether the minority of users who actively post are leaving or not. These are the most affected by privacy concerns. Once enough of them do, the platform dries out and its end will accelerate.

That’s a good point. Are you just assuming the majority of users are read-only or is that informed by some other source? I would probably assume something similar as far as posts and less for comments, but as far as just liking things, I would assume almost everybody who logs in does that on a regular basis. They probably do it a lot less but logging in and browsing but not liking anything seems a little uncanny to me. I mean it makes sense if you just don’t see anything you like but that doesn’t seem like a likely habit to sustain itself.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by rndmind »

visarga wrote: post #140
rndmind wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure that MZ is the latter. F*book is a farce. You are the problem. Be the change you want to see. Reach out to people other ways for events. FFS, you are connected 24x7 to the internet, not facebook exclusively, never in the history of humanity have we had this level of instantaneous hyperconnection, that excuse is a lie.

> Reach out to people other ways for events. It's the other way around, he's being reached by other people through FB. What good would it do to make an account where his friends are not?

Surely the reason he is being invited is not because he has an account on an online platform. We are in a hyperconnected world where an infinite number of ways to communicate exist.

You don't need to rely on a single closed-garden platform for communication. F*book sole purpose as a corporation is built around harvesting as much personal data about you as possible and selling it to the highest and most nefarious bidder.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by cm2187 »

gt_ wrote: post #143
cm2187 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue a lot if not probably the majority of users of Facebook are read only. What matters is really whether the minority of users who actively post are leaving or not. These are the most affected by privacy concerns. Once enough of them do, the platform dries out and its end will accelerate.

That’s a good point. Are you just assuming the majority of users are read-only or is that informed by some other source? I would probably assume something similar as far as posts and less for comments, but as far as just liking things, I would assume almost everybody who logs in does that on a regular basis. They probably do it a lot less but logging in and browsing but not liking anything seems a little uncanny to m…

My own personal experience of seeing the majority of the posts in my feed coming from a minority of my contacts. And a lot of people use facebook just to keep track of what distant relatives and acquaintances have become, not because they feel like sharing everything in their life with the world.

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Post by jimmywanger »

harry8 wrote: post #91
sydli wrote: post #64

A point that is brought up occasionally, but probably not enough: Deleting Facebook really isn't possible for a nontrivial percentage of the world population, since Facebook is the internet in some places. Their monopoly over internet infrastructure in some developing countries is such that people can't afford non-Facebook internet packages, and seems to disincentivize actual low-cost internet infrastructure from bei…

I'm not in favour of nationalization as a rule. I can see it being a populist thing to do in those countries. Facebook are the agent of foreign states, we must control our own critically important infrastructure! (cheers) Free internet for all! (more cheers) Populism is so hot right now.

> I'm not in favour of nationalization as a rule. > we must control our own critically important infrastructure! (cheers)

You're conflating two things. If the US somehow lost all steel foundries without being able to spin things up in a reasonable amount of time, we're screwed in a war. You must indeed make sure that you're self-sufficient in things that are essential for living in case you're cut off due to circumstances.

I'm not quite sure what your point is.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by blhack »

perl4ever wrote: post #43
blhack wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is quite frankly worse. And I don't know if I am personally acquainted with even a single person who actively uses LinkedIn. I wonder if the latter is an SV thing?

I don't think LinkedIn use is limited to SV, but the qualifier "actively" makes it unclear what you are trying to say. What is "active" in this context?

A median time between updates of less than 2 months over a 5 year period.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by osrec »

oh-kumudo wrote: post #138

CA scandal is just a final push. I kinda stopped using FB like half a year ago, for that I don't really know what I could get from this platform. Viral videos, nope. Sensationalized editorial with an angry face attached below, nope. Friends having party like no tomorrow, fine. But there are so many of them, and they are kinda repetitive. Since it is public and real name social network, I have to be extra careful shar…

That's how it starts. The clever folk quit first (they also start first) as they can clearly identify with their intrinsic dislike of the platform. The less clever take a little while longer to realise how much they're hating it too, often getting suckered by cheap tricks used by the platform to keep them hooked. They will figure it out soon enough though! I think I'll probably start shorting some Facebook stock in the next couple of weeks. The platform is nearly worthless now that popular prejudice has started to turn against it.

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Post by Dreami »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #75
cyberferret wrote: post #13

The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

I highly recommend deleting the fb app from your device to prevent it listening on you, tracking location, draining your battery and bombarding you with notifications. If you must use messenger in mobile, https://mbasic.facebook.com/ works

They also say, in the mobile web version, that there are Stories, that can only be viewed in the app. Nope, desktop mode is enough (of course).

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Post by gaius »

netsharc wrote: post #45
cyberferret wrote: post #13

The question is - will this be just a minor blip to Facebook and then normal services will resume after the indignation wears off? Or will it the beginning of the end of the social media dominance of the platform? For me personally, I use FB primarily to keep in touch with friends, family and old colleagues who are spread all over the world. It is purely a contact tool, and not really used to market products of servi…

A year or so ago I noticed I would wake up and the first thing I did was load up Facebook in my phone. I deleted the app, and what do I do? i still open it on my phone's browser. So I changed my password to 32 characters generated by Keepass, and make sure I logged out of it on my phone. I'm still logged in on the desktop, but nowadays it's pretty quiet anyway. Thr last few days I've been using a Chrome extension (1)…

For me it had entered muscle memory, whenever I was slightly bored and craving that dopamine hit my fingers would do “splat-t fa return” without even really thinking about it. Took a few weeks to fully unlearn that!
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