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Anyone else remember Beacon? This was how FB has always designed to work from the beginning. They've just been toying with the PR ways to say it to make people accept it without thinking. The election woke people up. I found this from 2011 when they shut it down as a "mistake." ( https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2011/11/our-commitment-to-the-f... ). Unfortunately, it looks like they removed the launch release - but it wo…

It's a really bad business move to share the data, if Kogan was smart he'd develop an API to allow them to ask for the insights, but not see the data.

The sad thing is FB sounds jealous he realized more value from their data than they did. It's totally a Duh, why didn't we think of that, Clinton would have paid way more for that data than Trump did.

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post #39

The trusting developers not to sell any data but putting zero safeguards in place to prevent this and extremely punitive repercussions despite being repeatedly told by the public, media, and even high level employees tells me Facebook can't plead ignorance to this and they not only knew this was happening, but they probably intended for it to happen. They knew it was illegal but put all the incentives for companies n…

2011 FTC hearings were about the exact same topic. You can't trust the 3rd party app developers. Back then it was social game developers selling user profile data to Rapleaf and other data brokers.

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1000 word statement. Number of times the word "advertising" was mentioned: 0 Facebook continues to pretend it's business model is unicorns and kittens, not selling user data for money.

Facebook doesn't sell user data for money. It sells targeted advertising for money. There is a huge difference.

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The 2007 and 2013 paragraphs are pretty scary. Your friend takes a personality quiz from a random app developer and then that developer gets access to _your_ personal data. Obviously Zuckerberg doesn't go into detail about what kind of data that was, but if they needed to rein that in in 2014... I imagine it was potentially pretty personal.

There's a short discussion about the changes here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23417356/facebook-graph-...

Re: Zuckerberg on Cambridge Analytica situation

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1000 word statement. Number of times the word "advertising" was mentioned: 0 Facebook continues to pretend it's business model is unicorns and kittens, not selling user data for money.

It's not really selling it's user data for money; it's selling access to it's users for money. Sure, user data allows some advanced targeting, but the reason they make the profit they do is that people are buying ads for people to see, not data about them. That's an important distinction.

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> I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect our community. While this specific issue involving Cambridge Analytica should no longer happen with new apps today, that doesn't change what happened in the past. We will learn from this experience to secure our platform further and make our community safer for everyone going forward.

It's good that Facebook took steps to secure the platform against third parties crawling the graph and scraping millions of users' personal details, which is what Cambridge Analytica reportedly did, and which was not a violation of their policy at the time. Kudos.

So the consensus seems to be that what Cambridge Analytica did in the Brexit vote and the 2016 US Election was wrong. Now they won't be able to do the same thing via Facebook. But what's keeping Facebook themselves from doing the same thing that Cambridge Analytica did in future elections?

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post #39

The trusting developers not to sell any data but putting zero safeguards in place to prevent this and extremely punitive repercussions despite being repeatedly told by the public, media, and even high level employees tells me Facebook can't plead ignorance to this and they not only knew this was happening, but they probably intended for it to happen. They knew it was illegal but put all the incentives for companies n…

>The trusting developers not to sell any data but putting zero safeguards in place to prevent this and extremely punitive repercussions despite being repeatedly told by the public, media, and even high level employees tells me Facebook can't plead ignorance to this and they not only knew this was happening, but they probably intended for it to happen.

Why would they intend for it to happen? They didn't make any money off of this exfiltration, CA paid people via Mechanical Turk to install the application so that they could mine their data. Facebook didn't get a dime. In fact, they have a monetary interest in preventing this, because their data is worth something and these guys just got it from free usage of their API. So the insinuation that Facebook wanted this to happen, or looked away because it benefited them, makes zero sense.

What kind of safeguards are you imagining? How do you have 3rd parties interface with Facebook without letting those applications reason about the information within a Facebook account? Tinder is valued at over a billion dollars and it's not possible to use it without a Facebook account-- should Facebook shut that down and ban the entire concept of 3rd party Facebook interaction?

I do not understand the anger. They did nothing wrong. I can't believe that people are legitimately arguing that users shouldn't have a right to expose their information to apps.

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