In 2015 Facebook knew CA had the data and yet didn't audit the company till two days. I'd hate to be attorney representing FB in the FTC hearings.
Zuckerberg on Cambridge Analytica situation
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#52The main problem is that users can't control their data. FB should:
- Allow its users to delete their accounts as if they never existed
- Show users which person and or service has accessed their data (also FB internally)
- Use backend permission management instead of frontend permission management
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#53"... we immediately banned Kogan's app from our platform, and demanded that Kogan and Cambridge Analytica formally certify that they had deleted all improperly acquired data. They provided these certifications." How is it at all possible to certify that data has been deleted and no copies were taken..?
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#541000 word statement.
Number of times the word "advertising" was mentioned: 0
Facebook continues to pretend it's business model is unicorns and kittens, not selling user data for money.
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#55On the FB developer side: > Second, we will restrict developers' data access even further to prevent other kinds of abuse. For example, we will remove developers' access to your data if you haven't used their app in 3 months. Won't this behavior break a ton of apps?
>> Second, we will restrict developers' data access even further to prevent other kinds of abuse. For example, we will remove developers' access to your data if you haven't used their app in 3 months. The problem was data that was secretly kept , right? How would removing access change anything? Or am I misunderstanding what happened?
That was one problem. The other problem was that some app permissions were too broad and not clearly communicated. When you gave an app permission to view your data it saw all your friends' data too, even though they never approved anything. Zuck claims they tightened it up a bit but they apparently want to go further.
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#56The trusting developers not to sell any data but putting zero safeguards in place to prevent this and extremely punitive repercussions despite being repeatedly told by the public, media, and even high level employees tells me Facebook can't plead ignorance to this and they not only knew this was happening, but they probably intended for it to happen. They knew it was illegal but put all the incentives for companies n…
Yeah it’s like “oh gosh, they violated our terms of service by pulling 50 million users info! We must send them a sternly worded email with a checkbox to confirm they they won’t do it again!”. It’s inconceivable that there aren’t larger exfiltrations of user data that have taken place - how would they even know?
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#57Full Text: I want to share an update on the Cambridge Analytica situation -- including the steps we've already taken and our next steps to address this important issue. We have a responsibility to protect your data, and if we can't then we don't deserve to serve you. I've been working to understand exactly what happened and how to make sure this doesn't happen again. The good news is that the most important actions t…
> our community x 3
Can 1 billion diverse people be a community? What ties them together? Not place, not creed, not nation, not language, nothing except their humanity (I don't think I'm going out on a limb on that one except for the bots) and the fact that they use FB. I guess it sounds better than "our users", community has that ‘we're all in this together’ vibe. Google would never call its users our community, nor Apple neither, nor Amazon, yet FB can? Is it because it's a social media platform? I think it's a gross sleight of hand to be honest.
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#58The issue here is not some developer gaining a temporary snapshot of a few million records, it is that Facebook _itself_ is doing and productizing real-time psychological profiling on billions of people.
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#59The 2007 and 2013 paragraphs are pretty scary. Your friend takes a personality quiz from a random app developer and then that developer gets access to _your_ personal data. Obviously Zuckerberg doesn't go into detail about what kind of data that was, but if they needed to rein that in in 2014... I imagine it was potentially pretty personal.
My guess is anything your friends can see.
If your friends can see your posts, the app can see your posts. If your friends can see your birthdate, the app can see your birthdate. And so on, so forth.
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#60On the FB developer side: > Second, we will restrict developers' data access even further to prevent other kinds of abuse. For example, we will remove developers' access to your data if you haven't used their app in 3 months. Won't this behavior break a ton of apps?
> Won't this behavior break a ton of apps? Would they really be moving fast and breaking things if it didn't?
It's only moving fast when they're breaking someone else's business model, not their own one.