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Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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If your point was about security then you should have stated that. It seems unhelpful to assume that someone responding to your post is a mind-reader.

If the reason the ads bother me is relevant to your point, you should have stated that.

Why would the reason ads bother you be relevant to my point. I was responding to your point about not being able to use the internet without an adblocker, which is something that's quite easy to do.

Maybe you meant to respond to a different comment thread? You seem to be confused as to the topic of this one.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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> Mastodon [...] No real name policies Lacking a very rarefied community capable of self-moderation, like this site has or some specialized reddits and forums, the no-real-name becomes a major drawback. A minority of douche-bags will generate a majority of noise and will come to shape that world in their image. This is quite visible when browsing Mastodon instances, many of which look like a crossbreed of 4chan with…

Unfortunately, real and legal are often conflated by people making and supporting these policies. Many of those names may in fact be real even if they don't match your expectations of what a real name looks like.

I can't use my real name on Facebook because I can't get a legal name change. So I don't use Facebook.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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For the life of me I can't remember where I originally read this quote, but it forever changed my perspective of FB. Paraphrased: "Facebook is 3 things: the wall, the messaging, and an automatically updating rolodex." Many apps fill 1 and/or 2, but nothing satisfies #3. There is no alternative. For better or for worse: I want to stay in touch with people I've met in the oddest places. In the middle of bumsquash Urugu…

For #3 why not just email? There may be some marginal convenience features to FB, but email has served that purpose reliably since it was invented.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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For the life of me I can't remember where I originally read this quote, but it forever changed my perspective of FB. Paraphrased: "Facebook is 3 things: the wall, the messaging, and an automatically updating rolodex." Many apps fill 1 and/or 2, but nothing satisfies #3. There is no alternative. For better or for worse: I want to stay in touch with people I've met in the oddest places. In the middle of bumsquash Urugu…

I have actually done fine with a cronjob and emails for the last 7 years or so.

Releasing the cronjob whenever I'm finished making it a chrome extension. I suppose this business is a pretty good inducement towards getting done a bit faster.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

#125

I don't care about events, but I'd like my friends and weak ties to easily be able to keep up with what's going on with me. The only alternatives I can think of is signing them up all for a mailing list, or starting a website/blog. But if I don't want my blog to be public, I'm faced with doing something like setting up a wordpress blog with membership, and asking them all to register and sign in to see my semi-privat…

Secure Scuttlebutt is this, but suffers from the same problem every non-Facebook social network does: critical mass.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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It seems nearly every single post where someone suggests people delete their Facebook accounts always has some comment pointing out that the NYT, or Medium, or whatever the article was published has a Facebook share widget or something like that. IMHO, those comments might as well be "First Post!" for all they add. > it doesn't mean that readers must be burdened with a popup that asks them to log in to Facebook befor…

This comment thread is taking place on site with no (obvious or well known) google or facebook integrations. Honest question, do you think the same content with same title with a different domain rather than 'medium.com' could not reach similar popularity on HN? Any comment pointing out hypocrisy is valuable and interesting in my opinion. I prefer to disregard the opinions of hypocrites.

> Any comment pointing out hypocrisy is valuable and interesting in my opinion. I prefer to disregard the opinions of hypocrites.

That's actually a pretty closed minded position. I don't think there's a single person who isn't a hypocrite in some small way, even ascetics living alone in the desert. You'll disregard all of them?

Hypocrisy doesn't logically invalidate anyone's arguments or positions, those need to be evaluated on their own. If they make good points but fail to live up to them, it only demonstrates their own personal moral failings.

But I think it's also a mistake to count "publishing something about deleting Facebook on a website with a Facebook integration" as hypocrisy. Authors usually aren't the ones making implementation decisions of the platforms the publish on, and are probably not even aware of most of them.

> Honest question, do you think the same content with same title with a different domain rather than 'medium.com' could not reach similar popularity on HN?

HN isn't the world.

I think it's a waste of time for an author to make the avoidance of publishing platforms with Facebook integrations a priority. It would be an act of foolish, unpragmatic purism, akin to a lot of the stuff Richard Stallman does. It's more important that they argue persuasively and widely to convince the implementors to avoid such integrations.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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Mastodon can't be considered a real alternative unless you have a solution for all the child porn on some of the most popular instances.

“Defederate with pawoo” There you go

I think this was what prompted the finer-grained federation controls. Most instances at least block its images now and/or mute it.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

#128

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I do not understand how anyone in 2018 finds the internet remotely usable without some form of ad blocker. This is how you ignore the modern salesman.

I do not understand how anyone in 2018 finds the internet remotely usable without some form of ad blocker. This is how you ignore the modern salesman. It's actually pretty simple. You just don't visit sites with ads that bother you.

The issue isn’t the ads that bother you. Its the ones that don’t. Everyone thinks of themselves as sceptical people, but we’re only sceptical of things we already don’t believe. The ads that don’t bother you, and the ones you don’t recognize as advertising are working on you just as much as the ones you don’t like.

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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> Losing contact with people mostly involves not thinking about them. If you don't think about them, you don't miss them either. This is so far removed from how I interact with the world around me that I have a hard time empathising. I’ll keep it scientific and factual: more than once, I’ve gone back to a place I visited over a decade ago. I went on Facebook, found the person that used to live there, got in touch, an…

>The crucial point here is that I can’t tell in advance which places, until I decide to go. You should have the foresight to write down their contact details. You meet a person, exchange contact details. Save it in your phone or cloud or what ever. Is that too hard? Will you run out of storage space if you save contact info for every person you meet? But hey, that requires a moments thought. Am I going to have to con…

But the other person probably changed emails, didnt keep his phone number and moved to a new City. What now?

I personally dont use Facebook, but youre not actually painting a realistic picture

Re: DeleteFacebook: Perspective from Mastodon

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If the reason the ads bother me is relevant to your point, you should have stated that.

Why would the reason ads bother you be relevant to my point. I was responding to your point about not being able to use the internet without an adblocker, which is something that's quite easy to do. Maybe you meant to respond to a different comment thread? You seem to be confused as to the topic of this one.

Hopefully my edit makes it more clear for you.
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