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Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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A tweet from a middle manager changing jobs doesn’t seem at all newsworthy. Are people reading more into this than they should be?

lcamtuf isn't exactly just "a middle manager"

Is it newsworthy? Not in the scandalous sense, no.

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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post #3

@jvanegue: > there is a CISO position to fill at @facebook I hear @lcamtuf: > Waiting for NYTimes to tell me why I am leaving Google first. This little exchange speaks volumes about what's happening in the the media regarding the tech industry: one company behaves badly and then all get tarred and feathered. Facebook's security leadership starts jumping ship, and when someone analogous from Google, a completely diffe…

> the world assumes a similar scandal is on the way.

I see no-one assuming that.

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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If you don't know who this is, he wrote one of my favourite books on web (browser) security: "The Tangled Web" [1]. Another lesser known book by him is also worth a read: "Silence on the Wire" that takes a look at the full information security stack from the keyboard you type on, to the wires the data transits, to the internet protocols, etc [2] and looking at how each stage exposes/protects data. And has quite an in…

"Silence on the Wire" is still my favourite security book!

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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@jvanegue: > there is a CISO position to fill at @facebook I hear @lcamtuf: > Waiting for NYTimes to tell me why I am leaving Google first. This little exchange speaks volumes about what's happening in the the media regarding the tech industry: one company behaves badly and then all get tarred and feathered. Facebook's security leadership starts jumping ship, and when someone analogous from Google, a completely diffe…

Google and Facebook both love to hover up all data they can lay hands on, love to insert themselves as middlemen, and are crawling with marketing speak.

As for the moral compass, remember how Eric Schmidt was eaten alive by a horde of upset Google employees after smugly declaring privacy dead? Me neither.

Your overall point still stands, I just disagree that Google is remotely pure.

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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post #2

If you don't know who this is, he wrote one of my favourite books on web (browser) security: "The Tangled Web" [1]. Another lesser known book by him is also worth a read: "Silence on the Wire" that takes a look at the full information security stack from the keyboard you type on, to the wires the data transits, to the internet protocols, etc [2] and looking at how each stage exposes/protects data. And has quite an in…

If you don't know who this is, read his CV: http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/cv-web-en.pdf

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

#16

A tweet from a middle manager changing jobs doesn’t seem at all newsworthy. Are people reading more into this than they should be?

A lot of folks in Hackernews have interest in security relevant topics also - Its one of the reasons I am here, so I appreciate quickly reading this and move on. Its a good indicator that HN is the right community for me. :)

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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post #16

A tweet from a middle manager changing jobs doesn’t seem at all newsworthy. Are people reading more into this than they should be?

A lot of folks in Hackernews have interest in security relevant topics also - Its one of the reasons I am here, so I appreciate quickly reading this and move on. Its a good indicator that HN is the right community for me. :)

I too am interested in security related topics. I don’t know what that has to do with this tweet. High profile contributors to the community changing jobs is pretty common, so I’m not sure why a tweet about this particular case is noteworthy.

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of folks in Hackernews have interest in security relevant topics also - Its one of the reasons I am here, so I appreciate quickly reading this and move on. Its a good indicator that HN is the right community for me. :)

I too am interested in security related topics. I don’t know what that has to do with this tweet. High profile contributors to the community changing jobs is pretty common, so I’m not sure why a tweet about this particular case is noteworthy.

Consider for a moment that Michal Zalewski might simply be held in esteem by the HN community, and therefore his leaving Google after 11 years is personally significant to many HN users.

Is that too far out for you to believe?

Re: Michał Zalewski, Director Information Security Engineering, leaves Google

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post #3

@jvanegue: > there is a CISO position to fill at @facebook I hear @lcamtuf: > Waiting for NYTimes to tell me why I am leaving Google first. This little exchange speaks volumes about what's happening in the the media regarding the tech industry: one company behaves badly and then all get tarred and feathered. Facebook's security leadership starts jumping ship, and when someone analogous from Google, a completely diffe…

> a completely different (i.e. existent) moral compass

You mean, the company which basically turned "free services for all your data and info" something at massive scale?

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