Guide to Slack import and export tools

Post by daveFNbuck » Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 4:14 PM UTC

froindt wrote: post #51

mindcrime wrote: post #3

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Meh. Nobody should be surprised by any of this in the slightest. If your employer provides / pays for any kind of communications tool, the only sane position is to assume that they can - and probably do - monitor every single byte you send.

I think there's some middle ground, some grey area where whether it's alright is murky. It's kind of pulling the rug out from under people when the policy of a 3rd party provider abruptly changes and suddenly tons of messages become available to the company. There are a number of things I might mention to a coworker over a private IM which wouldn't necessarily put my employment at risk, but would be awkward for manag…

Post by ben509 » Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 4:14 PM UTC

dsacco wrote: post #170

random4369 wrote: post #93

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There's an infinite space of solutions to your particular problem, but your chosen solution is totalitarian surveillance in the workplace because an intern got offended? I avoid workplaces which force shit like this. So do all the good developers I know, because they're people who can afford to be choosy. Bullies are pretty adept at functioning in these environments. Instead of harassing on monitored DMs, they'll mak…

> but your chosen solution is totalitarian surveillance in the workplace because an intern got offended? Sigh Totalitarianism is a socio-political paradigm, not a stand-in word to describe things you think constitute surveillance in the context of a business. Companies require the capability to maintain auditable records of employee activity on the information channels they own and manage. Your company is not recordi…

Post by secstate » Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 4:16 PM UTC

theobon wrote: post #124

ramblerman wrote: post #68

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> Only way to see it was to boot an offending intern from his work station and go into his Slack to see what was happening. Why couldn't you just ask the recipient to look on his station? > We had to make all intern accounts into multi-channel guests after that Are 2 interns ever allowed to be alone together? I mean it's essentially the same, you are saying they can't be trusted so either you always need them in grou…

You are assuming that harassment was direct, sending messages to the accusers. My impression is that this was a group chatting privately about the accusers either making fun of them or coordinating actions. While this can be done through other channels (in person or private cellphone) allowing it on corporate infrastructure without monitoring is not acceptable.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 4:16 PM UTC

6d6b73 wrote: post #96

duxup wrote: post #23

I think if the employer provides the tool, it is their data. I know there are different traditions in other places where they consider something like work email to be more of an employee owned or privacy issues. I always thought that was a bit wonky and it is easier to identify who owns what by ... who owns it.

>I think if the employer provides the tool, it is their data. Not really. Just because the employer pays for the office building doesn't give them access to my private conversations with other members of the team.

Post by xstephen95x » Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 4:16 PM UTC