WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

This is similar to how revolutions happen. The government does something bad, many are frustrated by it, but they are still overall happy with the government, and only a few speak out.

Then the government does more bad stuff. More are frustrated, only a few speak out.

And on, and on, for decades. It seems like nothing will ever change. And one day "something happens" that makes all of that frustration come up, and the people are furious like nothing else, and you may even see riots and whatnot. And the people on the sidelines, who have no clue about how life was in that country wonder "why would people be so violent, and destroy things?! It doesn't make sense!" Yes, it does make sense. It's just not pretty.

And yes, it will happen to Google, too. I've tried to warn them and other tech companies many times in the past on HN, that they can't just screw over their users and piss them off, thinking only a few spoke out, so it must not be such a big deal the evil thing they've just done. Many more people are usually frustrated about that thing, but they usually keep that frustration inside because they would like to continue using Google.

So, yes. Google is definitely next. Just maybe not tomorrow, or next year. Maybe in a few years. My guess is it will be something around how they use their AI, especially now that they've become a war contractor. Maybe they'll sell their AI tech to US law enforcement to target American citizens in various ways. It's probably inevitable.

A Facebook exodus was never going to be linear. It will be drastic, and it will "surprise" people, even at the company, just as this surprises you now (although I wouldn't say that exodus will happen now, but this is definitely a one of the big final steps before that exodus, at the very least).

I've been using MeWe recently, it's basically like classic facebook (chronological, not full of crap you didn't sign up for) but sadly doesn't have a critical mass of users yet.

Not really. Remember that whole, "Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes" thing.. Yet instead of actually doing this, they continue to essentially outsource their power, and responsibility to the administrative state. I mean DT almost blatantly came out and said, well these new tariffs aren't exactly because of national security..

Don't kid yourself, both parties are essentially the same, who feeds them just look different. On top of that, Congress continues to cede more powers to the administrative state.. It becomes all about control really..

The primary reason no one should have been worried when DT got elected is that for a great many years, the system was designed that no matter who is driving the ship, they won't sink it because they don't have that power (same goes for BO & GWB). But for years we've been pushing for more centralized authority with power resting at the figurehead, that really ramped up after '01, and later BO put it on steroids.

As private institutions fall away for newer generations, the govt becomes "something we all do together", and the primary solution for having someone else take care of societal problems for us, after all, it's what we pay taxes for...

Congress keeps outsourcing it's responsibilities to the president, no matter what letter, R or D is behind the name on the office door. Tariffs, wars, weaponized govt agencies, privacy rights, drone strikes, surveillance, and on and on...

This isn't a problem of the system, it's merely a symptom of the current state of our society and I personally don't think whether it's tariffs or privacy, little will change in a direction that we would like. The people want easy solutions, they want someone to take care of problems for them. That's exactly what we are getting.

Among other things, CA and Bannon tested out slogans such as "deep state" "drain the swamp" on the Facebook accounts in 2014 to see what would be most effective in motivating voters for Clinton opponents and discouraging Clinton voter from going to the polls. This shows that one should not be limiting a query to when they started working for Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-oversaw-cambr...

Obviously CA was not infallible, they could only get Ted Cruz to second against Trump among GOP candidates in that initial mad scrum, Cruz thought he could win with only evangelical voters in the primaries based on what they looked at with previous GOP primaries and was blindsided by Trump coming at the primaries from a different angle.

To clarify, the general public outlash started after Trump and Brexit.

I reacted back in 2012 to the fact that Obama's campaign bragged openly about doing same thing. Back then the problem statement was a bit newer to me, I guess I was a bit more sensitive to back then.

The few articles back then praised them about this.

Disclosure: I don't really mind that Trump became president or that UK decided to leave EU - wouldn't have cared if the outcome was the opposite either. It's just different approaches of running countries with different pros and cons.