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Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by prteja11 »

Jesus_Jones wrote: post #143
DamnYuppie wrote: post #96

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I don't find this to be true. For the last 2 years I have been using G-Suite and recently went back to O365. I find the collaboration features in the new version to be on par with googles. Also the UI is better, the online feature set is better, especially for PowerPoint and Word. As for Excel the desktop version is still the undisputed champion but it syncs up very quickly with others who are editing the same docume…

6 months ago at my last company they used office and we used office 365 to collaboratively edit some word docs and we had a problem where the docs kept getting locked and others couldn't edit them. this doesn't happen with google docs. if you have a big collaborative doc its a problem, or was 6 months ago. Did it get fixed?

I have used O365 to collaborate on a spreadsheet and the experience was horrible. We had about 500 rows and 8 columns and it would lock up or just crash on us. We were not even collaborating. We just shared the file with 8 people and were trying to copy data from one tab to other (within the sheet).

Google Sheets was a much better experience for collaboration.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by seba_dos1 »

riku_iki wrote: post #108
seba_dos1 wrote: post #101

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You're proving the grandparent's point. Android's "openness" matters only if you want to build your own OS based on Android or you're a system integrator. For users buying Android devices, it's more often than not just as closed platform as any other alternative.

what kind of extra openness you expect from android?

Android, as is offered to most of the customers, is basically a completely closed platform that just happens to allow you to side-load APKs. It's basically Windows.

For starters - have you tried to use Android without Google Play Services or its reverse engineered open reimplementation, microG? Android with F-Droid is like a completely different runtime platform than Android with Google Play. It might be a nice platform, but it's different - you can't just switch without extreme changes to your habits and apps you use, even if you don't mind installing closed apps. If you say "Android is open", you really mean something completely different than most of Android users think about when hearing "Android". When they hear or say "Android", they think "Google Play's Android".

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by discreditable »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #137
discreditable wrote: post #113

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I agree that sheets is no excel, but it does almost everything I need, and a few things better. A few examples: - JavaScript as a scripting language. (It's no python but it's nicer than vbscript.) - Builtin regex functions (regexextract, regexmatch, regexreplace).

JavaScript is now the main language for writing Office add-ins: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/excel/ex...

Seems like preview builds only at the moment. Reading the docs it also seems a lot more involved than the Google Docs workflow of Tools > Script Editor > write code.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by sridharvembu »

rkwasny wrote: post #49

Curious if anyone has tried Zoho? how does it compare

Zoho CEO here. Please take a look at our Workplace suite (Mail, Cliq, Connect, Docs & Office suite - collaboration and productivity) and judge it for yourself. Our Writer (word processor) and Show (presentation) have had major upgrades recently, and Sheet is getting upgraded too.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by arbie »

crispyporkbites wrote: post #109
r00fus wrote: post #55

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Are you serious? Basic animations were super easy to figure out in Google slides, whereas I still stumble in Powerpoint. Perhaps it's because there's less functionality but I'm only making slides for internal consumption, so it just has to hide/show the relevant info.

Never put animations in your PowerPoint decks. Ever.

I started following this religiously for recurring decks, and the results have been outstanding.

If you want to hone your communication skills in general:

* Do not add animations * Do not use themes * Force every bullet point to fit on a single line * Points need not be grammatically complete * Use a font size that you can read from more than nine feet away * Talk about - don't read from - the slide

And now, some unconventional advice:

PowerPoint can absolutely replace Vizio, and you should disregard all the rules when you create product announcement decks where style can trump substance. Some of those slides have over a hundred animations and must be split up into three or more pseudo-slides (initial state, N keyframe slides, final state) seamlessly.

PowerPoint is an extremely versatile tool, and its success and failure modes directly mirror the user's.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by arbie »

karambahh wrote: post #57
WDCDev wrote: post #35

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I agree. I have been using it for over 20 years now, and use it almost daily in many different capacities. Excel along with the entire MS Office suite of applications is ubiquitous across almost every enterprise. I am curious how Airbus is going to handle external vendors, customers and organizations sending them complex Excel Spreadsheets and Word Documents.

They are big enough for their contracts to enforce usage of something other than the de facto standard. Not only are they big but a lot of their suppliers are SMEs which in effect are economically dependent to Airbus (even if they carefully avoid dependence to them in the legal definition of the expression).

The more likely outcome is continued use of Office at vendor interfaces.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by MindTooth »

BLanen wrote: post #70
MindTooth wrote: post #65

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Google or Microsoft makes their money on analytical data. In other words; we are the product. Not the software. So what I ment is that they traded one evil for a another one.

You don't know what you're talking about. Don't just repeat cool sentences that don't apply here. You're wrong here, ESPECIALLY with microsoft.

Guess I was right then.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by ajcodez »

snewman wrote: post #92
ajcodez wrote: post #80

At a past consulting job the CEO claimed Google was reading his confidential information in the 00’s and refuses to use anything except Office 365. In his case confidence that MS will not act improperly is the most important feature.

As an engineer working on Docs and related products from inception through 2010: I would be astonished if this were the case. Had such behavior become known within the engineering team, there would likely have been an uprising. There was no backdoor mechanism for looking documents, at least on the Docs (word processing) side, and in any case this sort of thing Was Not Done. My guess is that things are locked down eve…

I use Docs all the time. It's really nice to hear privacy is important to the team!

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by arbie »

braderhart wrote: post #112
freehunter wrote: post #27

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>Google has been a much stronger supporter of open source That's debatable. According to GitHub, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to open source projects. http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-open-source-... In addition, there are quite a few high-profile open source software packages directly from Microsoft. https://opensource.microsoft.com

Let me know when they open source their spyware OS and then we'll talk. Until then you are just continuing to campaign for exploiting educational tools by locking them down so that students can't understand why they are getting forced upgrades, always getting viruses, and having their shopping and browsing information sent to Microsoft Moscow or Mossad.

Entirely too much FUD in your comment.
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