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Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Uber

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Re: Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Uber

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Post by LethargicStud »

jdavis703 wrote: post #265

When I was getting my learners permit I was practicing on a curvy mountain road. I saw a person with a camera phone on the "drop off" side of the road, taking a picture of from what my angle would've been a boring cliff face. But I knew that a camera phone photographer was probably actually photographing a human, who would likely be on the other side of the blind corner. So I slowed down, despite my instructor chasti…

The self driving accidents might be the easiest for humans to avoid, but if accident rates are lower for self-driving cars, it's still worth it. Let's look at overall numbers and severity, not how avoidable it would be for a human.

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Post by hndamien »

cle wrote: post #270
jdavis703 wrote: post #265

When I was getting my learners permit I was practicing on a curvy mountain road. I saw a person with a camera phone on the "drop off" side of the road, taking a picture of from what my angle would've been a boring cliff face. But I knew that a camera phone photographer was probably actually photographing a human, who would likely be on the other side of the blind corner. So I slowed down, despite my instructor chasti…

Should your driving instructor also not be on the road?

Maybe shouldn't be a driving instructor.

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Post by danso »

to3m wrote: post #256
kaitai wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're upset for someone using the word "ped" for pedestrian while using a word that's got a dictionary definition of being vulgar and offensive for women? I have to say I'm rather confused. I feel I'm being trolled.

Bah... my intent was certainly to be vulgar, and I stand by that. But if it's going to be interpreted as specifically offensive towards women (an implication not present in UK English) then I'll certainly apologise to all that were thus offended, because that was not part of the plan. Looks like it's too late to delete it, so we're stuck with it forever. Please still do drive carefully!

I'm a male, but I do think it's an offensive term for women in the U.S., despite its more casual usage in the UK. The average female reader would be inclined to think that such slurs -- and their anti-female sentiment -- were considered OK here.

It's too late to delete but I think it's worth it (for future readers) to say that offense isn't intended, and that that word is frowned upon by most HN users and mods.

Re: Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Uber

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Post by paul7986 »

Oh it's her fault she was jay walking and the robots now take precedence. No need to ticket jay walkers! Uber's fleet will take care of these law breakers!

Ridiculous and this company after all it's done is still around and now it's killing people!

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Post by hndamien »

mirimir wrote: post #252
kaitai wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're upset for someone using the word "ped" for pedestrian while using a word that's got a dictionary definition of being vulgar and offensive for women? I have to say I'm rather confused. I feel I'm being trolled.

Actually, in UK slang, that refers to someone who's being stupid. And still, everyone knows what it means in the US, I believe. Edit: Sorry about the ambiguity. I wan't referring to "ped". But rather to the slang that's offensive to women.

Derived from pedant I believe.

noun a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

Re: Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Uber

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

Bloomberg title:

>> Uber Victim Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Car

First line of the first paragraph in the article (my underlining):

>> Police say a video from the Uber self-driving car that struck and killed a woman on Sunday shows her moving in front of it suddenly

And the title on this thread:

>> Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Uber

Both titles are very misleading. The Bloomberg title because it doesn't clarify it's repeating a police statement, the HN title because it makes it look like the relevant video is in the article, or at least that someone from Bloomberg has seen it, neither of which is the case.

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Post by dpark »

mirimir wrote: post #173
cesarb wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The pedestrian becoming visible" would be to the video cameras. If the vehicle has other sensors (LIDAR, RADAR, etc), how sooner/later would the pedestrian be visible to these sensors? Would it be possible to judge that by looking solely at the dashcam? Would the sensors ignore the pedestrian as a false positive in these circumstances?

That's what I wonder. Yes, it has LIDAR etc. But there was this comment yesterday by arbie:[0] > Sensor Fusion typically merges LiDAR with stereoscopic camera feeds, the latter requiring ambient light. So might LIDAR data get de-emphasized when there's too little light for the cameras? 0) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16619917

If there’s not enough light for the cameras, LIDAR would get emphasized, not de-emphasized.

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Post by jordache »

danso wrote: post #44

The NYT just published a graphic that purports to show the location of the vehicle and the victim: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/20/us/self-drivi... This is the first report I've seen that indicates the Uber AV was in the right lane. Remember that the victim was crossing from left to right, and that all of the visible damage on the AV is on the right-side bumper. It's very hard to imagine a scenario in…

HN detective....

Re: Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of Self-Driving Uber

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Post by mirimir »

hndamien wrote: post #276
mirimir wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, in UK slang, that refers to someone who's being stupid. And still, everyone knows what it means in the US, I believe. Edit: Sorry about the ambiguity. I wan't referring to "ped". But rather to the slang that's offensive to women.

Derived from pedant I believe. noun a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

Sorry, I was ambiguous. I meant the other slang.
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