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Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by learc83 »

samstave wrote: post #121

Serious question, the US constantly states what side of a vote some lame senator or rep is on, but you never here anything about who is the makeup of the electoral college in msm - what their tax returns look like and who is paying them off. Why? So, have one electoral college rep release their finances, and then you know the true state of politics

> but you never here anything about who is the makeup of the electoral college in msm - what their tax returns look like and who is paying them off. Why?

Because electors are temporary and almost completely symbolic. In the vast majority of states if the Republican candidate wins, electors nominated by the Republican party go to D.C. If the Democratic candidate wins, Democratic electors go.

The respective parties pick hardcore supporters who will almost certainly vote for the party that nominated them, and in 29 states they are legally obligated to do so.

No one cares about them because they never change the outcome. There have been a handful of times when electors have voted against the will of their states, but they've only changed the outcome once, in 1834. The Democratic nominee for Vice President should have won that year, but 23 electors chose not to vote for VP, so it went to the Senate, who voted for the Democratic nominee anyway (so the electors didn't actually alter the outcome).

Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by oblib »

ramphastidae wrote: post #51
justboxing wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We've knows Facebook tracks everything Not disputing this, but when you say 'we' I think you mean the The rest 95% either don't know, or could care less even if they know. I've told my non-techie fam and friends about data harvesting, privacy, and how facebook tracks everything, only to be ignored or outright ridiculed ("Oh you techies are so paranoid"). Many of my friends in India (where I was raised) and elsewher…

Yep. I’ve been explaining this stuff to friends for years. Even the most intelligent and rational dismiss it as paranoia or say, “I don’t care, I have nothing to hide anyway.”

The flip side to "nothing to hide" is akin to John Hancock signing his name big and bold because you want others to know what "you" think and are doing.

That is not at all the same as not caring. It's using the platform with intent.

I see a lot of that on FB. I don't agree with the intent all the time but I do pay attention to it and often use it with purpose myself.

Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by tree_of_item »

freejulian wrote: post #142
tree_of_item wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've established beyond a doubt by now that there was, in fact, "Russian meddling" in the election. It's incredible that someone could still deny this.

Really? Cool! I’m sure you won’t have any troubles pointing me to some evidence then! Let’s see it... Also, I’m not alone in this, notable journalists such as Glenn Greenwald are also asking for evidence.

Are you just not paying attention to the Mueller investigation? There's like five guilty pleas by now. Is that just a nothing burger? Seriously, what do you think that's all about?

If you want a timeline of events you can go here[0] or here[1], but something tells me you won't accept these...

[0]: https://www.politico.com/trump-russia-ties-scandal-guide/tim...

[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/05/a...

Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by stochastic_monk »

grumdan wrote: post #146
freejulian wrote: post #126

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Sure, the margin was slim, but Hillary has no one to blame but herself. Scapegoating Facebook keeps all of Hillary’s misdeeds out of the limelight. Perhaps if she was a better candidate I wouldn’t have wrote in Bernie. I, for one, am happy to have Trump over her. Edit: ah yes, let me feel the downvotes hackernews. We can’t have anyone disliking Hillary here!

Your comment doesn't actually add anything to this conversation, so regardless of one's position on Trump vs. Hillary, the downvotes are justified. All you said was a vague commonplace sentiment that has very little to do with the topic at hand.

Additionally, “at least it’s not Hillary” is a pretty baseless reason without supporting arguments. The majority of Americans would vastly prefer her, so please explain your point if you aim to be taken seriously. This isn’t reddit.

Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by dingo_bat »

freejulian wrote: post #142
tree_of_item wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've established beyond a doubt by now that there was, in fact, "Russian meddling" in the election. It's incredible that someone could still deny this.

Really? Cool! I’m sure you won’t have any troubles pointing me to some evidence then! Let’s see it... Also, I’m not alone in this, notable journalists such as Glenn Greenwald are also asking for evidence.

I bet 10 bucks nobody here is going to reply with what you asked for. Because there is no "evidence" of any sort of "hacking".

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Post by austincheney »

freejulian wrote: post #142
tree_of_item wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've established beyond a doubt by now that there was, in fact, "Russian meddling" in the election. It's incredible that someone could still deny this.

Really? Cool! I’m sure you won’t have any troubles pointing me to some evidence then! Let’s see it... Also, I’m not alone in this, notable journalists such as Glenn Greenwald are also asking for evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...

There is enough evidence to substantiate beyond a reasonable doubt that Russia deliberately interfered with the 2016 presidential election. It is hard to determine the degree with which that interference influenced voters.

Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by dingo_bat »

tree_of_item wrote: post #153
freejulian wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Cool! I’m sure you won’t have any troubles pointing me to some evidence then! Let’s see it... Also, I’m not alone in this, notable journalists such as Glenn Greenwald are also asking for evidence.

Are you just not paying attention to the Mueller investigation? There's like five guilty pleas by now. Is that just a nothing burger? Seriously, what do you think that's all about? If you want a timeline of events you can go here[0] or here[1], but something tells me you won't accept these... [0]: https://www.politico.com/trump-russia-ties-scandal-guide/tim... [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018…

Can you spell it out? How did Russia "hack" the election? Please try to be specific. If I wanted random news stories, I'd google them.

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Post by yequalsx »

freejulian wrote: post #142
tree_of_item wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've established beyond a doubt by now that there was, in fact, "Russian meddling" in the election. It's incredible that someone could still deny this.

Really? Cool! I’m sure you won’t have any troubles pointing me to some evidence then! Let’s see it... Also, I’m not alone in this, notable journalists such as Glenn Greenwald are also asking for evidence.

When all the stories first started coming out about U.S. torture around 2005 the first stage was denial by supporters of Bush. The number of intelligence officials, the number of investigative reports, etc. is such that someone denying Russian influence is being willfully naive. The question isn’t if they did influence the election it’s just how much the influence really was. It is beyond question that the Russians were involved in shenanigans. The U.S. has regularly unduly influenced elections in other countries so I don’t begrudge the Russians for what they did. I do begrudge those of our leaders who don’t care.

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Post by lgregg »

walrus01 wrote: post #33
lgregg wrote: post #21

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you lost me after openbsd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitchX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat

ahhh, Yes... I remember IRC. I used a different client though.

I looked at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_C...

mIRC is the only familiar one. Then again, this was back when I was a kid. Vaguely related, AIM was my jam. I was a script kiddy and needed IRC to talk to all the l337 h4ck3r5.

Re: WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook

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Post by lulmerchant »

foxh0und wrote: post #113
aptwebapps wrote: post #109

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The election was won by a very slim margin. The core of Trump's support may have been with him regardless but they weren't enough to win. It's the actions on the margin that matter here. Also, as other's have pointed out, there are a lot of other problems with social media in general and Facebook in particular. Russian meddling in the election is the spark that is lighting the fire but the fuel was already there. (Th…

Exactly, he won the election thanks to 80000 votes in three states. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/do...

Actually, he won thanks to ~63,000,000 votes. You’re also trying to make it sound like there was something uniquely nefarious about his campaign. He used the same marketing tactics that all recent campaigns have used. The same tactics that Obama was widely praised for in 2012. He won because voters liked him more.
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