Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street

Post by scottmcdot » Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 5:56 AM UTC

tim333 wrote: post #958

>The self-driving Volvo SUV was outfitted with at least two video cameras, one facing forward toward the street, the other focused inside the car on the driver, Moir said in an interview. >From viewing the videos, “it’s very clear it would have been difficult to avoid this collision in any kind of mode (autonomous or human-driven) based on how she came from the shadows right into the roadway,” Moir said. ( https://ww…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 6:06 AM UTC

more_corn wrote: post #875

icc97 wrote: post #713

One aspect that comes from this is that now car crashes can be treated more like aircraft crashes. Each self-driving car now has a black box in it with a ton of telemetary. So it's not just "don't drink and drive", knowing that they'll probably reoffend soon anyway. Every crash and especially fatality can be thoroughly investigated and should be prevented from ever happening again. Hopefully there's enough data in th…

Every lesson from aviation is earned in blood. This death wasn't necessary though. The Otto/Uber guys have been informed about their car's difficulty sensing and stopping for pedestrians. I know this because I informed them myself when one almost ran me down in a crosswalk in SF. Can't learn anything from your lessons unless you listen. Maybe they can pause and figure out how to actually listen to their reports of un…

Post by dotancohen » Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 6:15 AM UTC

baron816 wrote: post #799

icc97 wrote: post #713

One aspect that comes from this is that now car crashes can be treated more like aircraft crashes. Each self-driving car now has a black box in it with a ton of telemetary. So it's not just "don't drink and drive", knowing that they'll probably reoffend soon anyway. Every crash and especially fatality can be thoroughly investigated and should be prevented from ever happening again. Hopefully there's enough data in th…

I hope we see the day when every car crash makes national news and there’s a big NTSB investigation into what happened.

Post by kawfey » Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 6:23 AM UTC

kwhitefoot wrote: post #964

Why is everyone concentrating on the software? There was a human in charge and the car was exceeding the speed limit. That sounds like either driving without due care and attention or reckless driving. After all the driver's reaction time is almost certain to be much longer when supervising an autonomous car than when driving directly making it much more important to adhere to the rules. And if it can be shown that i…

Post by nugi » Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 6:24 AM UTC

jusonchan wrote: post #789

pvelagal wrote: post #616

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May be for now, autonomous driving should be limited to freeways and roads that dont have pedestrian crossings/pavements.

This is a great point. Solve it one step at a time. But the problem is Uber's business plan is to replace drivers with autonomous vehicles ferrying passengers. i.e. take the driver cost out of the equation. Same goes for Waymo and others trying to enter/play in this game. It's always about monetization which kills/slows innovation. Just highway-mode is not going to make a lot of money except in the trucking business…