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Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

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Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#41
(Sydney resident)

Taxify launched here in December with 50% off rides, people jumped on board and ditched Uber.

50% rides ended - everyone went back to Uber, including myself.

Can't seen this ending any differently unless Ola is significantly cheaper.

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Just tried to sign up for Ola and they couldn't even send me the verification text to sign up with.

Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#42
post #14

In case, like me, you're unfamiliar with the term "Upstart" in this context. I found a few vague definitions that boil down to: Startups are entrepreneurial businesses that start with external funding. Upstarts are businesses that start without significant external funding.

Doesn't "upstart" have a slightly negative connotation?

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Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#43
post #41

(Sydney resident) Taxify launched here in December with 50% off rides, people jumped on board and ditched Uber. 50% rides ended - everyone went back to Uber, including myself. Can't seen this ending any differently unless Ola is significantly cheaper. ____ Just tried to sign up for Ola and they couldn't even send me the verification text to sign up with.

It keeps Uber honest. I have no idea at any time if Uber surge pricing is reasonable, being able to check against another app will help.

Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Melbourne there are so many cash only food places that you do need to carry cash - or at least know where the nearest atm is.

I'd say those businesses will have to evolve or die out. There is a great Japanese place in our town that I stopped frequenting purely because they didn't have an EFTPOS machine, and I often have to cash on me when returning from a customer visit etc. and I wanted a snack to bring home. Since they (finally) installed one after new owners took over, I go back there frequently now. With PayWave becoming so popular for…

The only places I am seeing now that get away with this in Victoria are small towns/ holiday destinations.

I don't see the economics of cash only working anymore here anywhere where there is decent competition.

Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#47
post #43
post #41

(Sydney resident) Taxify launched here in December with 50% off rides, people jumped on board and ditched Uber. 50% rides ended - everyone went back to Uber, including myself. Can't seen this ending any differently unless Ola is significantly cheaper. ____ Just tried to sign up for Ola and they couldn't even send me the verification text to sign up with.

It keeps Uber honest. I have no idea at any time if Uber surge pricing is reasonable, being able to check against another app will help.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that there is competition but the vast majority of people just care about a car that turns up on time and doesn't cost them a fortune.

If Taxify/Ola aren't doing anything majorly different from Uber then there's no reason for people to switch away from a service that proven to work.

Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In India, Ola also seems to have nicer car models than Uber, at least at the cheapest price point without sharing your ride with a stranger. Coupled with the wi-fi and the entertainment system (to put on whatever of the limited Apple Music set you choose) made most of my friends in Bangalore prefer it.

Ola also always more expensive than Uber when I was in India for a few weeks. And another anecdotal feedback is all of my friends felt Uber had better crop of drivers and service than Ola.

I am the grand parent poster - have stopped using Ola as Uber drivers are more predictable. Also they have weird KYC requirements and wanted to send physical documents for Ola Money, blocking my money without that.

Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#49
post #14

In case, like me, you're unfamiliar with the term "Upstart" in this context. I found a few vague definitions that boil down to: Startups are entrepreneurial businesses that start with external funding. Upstarts are businesses that start without significant external funding.

Doesn't "upstart" have a slightly negative connotation?

In the same vein as "self taught" might have a negative connotation. Very class based. Severely dependant on context.

Re: Uber’s New Rival in Australia: An Indian Upstart

#50
post #38
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. I thought this word is often used by incumbents to look down at the newcomer. English is not my first language so it's good to learn these subtleties.

To me it does come off as vaguely negative - in context, perhaps hinting at skepticism of whether the company will succeed in overtaking Uber. But if so, only mildly; the word definitely has its positive connotations too.

When startups were "cool" and people weren't so keen to their puffery and PR hacks or vaporware smoke tests, it was positive.

However, these days you almost certainly want to be known as a "business" by anyone who matters, and one with good reviews.

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