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Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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post #9

> Facebook’s chief information security officer, Alex Stamos, will leave the company after internal disagreements over how the social network should deal with its role in spreading disinformation, according to current and former employees briefed on the matter. This opening sentence is frightening, I would rather have learned that FB executive disagree about how to deal with FB "role in NOT spreading disinformation"

FB is big enough to have developed factions and I can totally see Zuck not being up to the task of controlling them.

Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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post #13

> Mr. Stamos had been a strong advocate inside the company for investigating and disclosing Russian activity on Facebook, often to the consternation of other top executives, including Sheryl Sandberg, the social network’s chief operating officer, according to the current and former employees, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. He was for disclosing this i…

The injustice!.

It’s right there in the quote: “...according to the current and former employees, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters“.

And before you criticize anonymous sources: that’s how journalism works. The publication, the New York Times in this case, takes on the risk to its reputation on behalf of their sources to allow information from unauthorized sources to become public.

Edit: editing your post to erase your embarrassing ineptitude to read (and to make the people correcting you seem foolish) seems kinda assholish.

Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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post #11

Stamos had been actively engaging with security researchers on Twitter over the past few days about CA with heated discussions: > I have deleted my Tweets on Cambridge Analytica, not because they were factually incorrect but because I should have done a better job weighing in. https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/975069709140877312 Archive of those deleted tweets: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/975078309930311…

Wondering what he thought would be him doing "a better job weighing in"? It seems like his deleted tweets were apparently too honest? i.e. in arguing that there was no data breach, he argued that FB's API and TOS allowed (without oversight) for all app developers to do the kind of data harvesting Cambridge Analytics did? That was well-known by developers, but I guess it's different stating it as an official policy.

In political circles, this is what is called a "Kinsley gaffe": when somebody accidentally tells the truth (and then has to hastily walk it back)

Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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Stamos had been actively engaging with security researchers on Twitter over the past few days about CA with heated discussions: > I have deleted my Tweets on Cambridge Analytica, not because they were factually incorrect but because I should have done a better job weighing in. https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/975069709140877312 Archive of those deleted tweets: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/975078309930311…

The man makes some extremely reasonable points. I just wrote a comment along the same lines. I'm glad to see there is some common sense at Facebook. Stamos always seemed a bit too rational to be working at a company like that. I worry what will happen to Facebook after he leaves; they were lucky to have him.

Also, I think the real problem here is that the media is attempting to politicize the term "breach," and security professionals are rightly offended.

Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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Stamos had been actively engaging with security researchers on Twitter over the past few days about CA with heated discussions: > I have deleted my Tweets on Cambridge Analytica, not because they were factually incorrect but because I should have done a better job weighing in. https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/975069709140877312 Archive of those deleted tweets: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/975078309930311…

I don't understand why he deleted that. It seems a reasonable summary. When I originally saw his tweet about the deletion I thought he may of gone on some crazy rant.

> I don't understand why he deleted that

Well it made his company look bad and now he's gone from that company ahead of schedule. Sometimes things are as simple as they seem on the surface.

Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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post #11

Stamos had been actively engaging with security researchers on Twitter over the past few days about CA with heated discussions: > I have deleted my Tweets on Cambridge Analytica, not because they were factually incorrect but because I should have done a better job weighing in. https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/975069709140877312 Archive of those deleted tweets: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/975078309930311…

Wondering what he thought would be him doing "a better job weighing in"? It seems like his deleted tweets were apparently too honest? i.e. in arguing that there was no data breach, he argued that FB's API and TOS allowed (without oversight) for all app developers to do the kind of data harvesting Cambridge Analytics did? That was well-known by developers, but I guess it's different stating it as an official policy.

Translation, "I pissed off my boss"

Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation

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post #17

There's breaking reporting that Facebook just had personnel in the Cambridge Analytica offices before the UK authorities could get there with warrants. https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/975844154361221121 > BREAKING: Facebook WAS inside Cambridge Analytica's office but have now "stood down" following dramatic intervention by UK Information Commissioner's Office.. https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/9758…

"Facebook WAS inside Cambridge Analytica's office but have now "stood down" following dramatic intervention by UK Information Commissioner's Office.."

Uhh....that's not good.

In effect, this is a sanctioned data breach. Facebook opened the firehouse of user data by knowingly keeping very lax access to their developer APIs while not at all preventing developers from storing the data they accessed.

That's a very serious breach of consumer trust. A terms of service is only as good as your user's ability to understand it's implications. Just because users check a box doesn't mean Facebook is any less liable.

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