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Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
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Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#112In about 20 minutes, an explosive documentary about this will be airing on Channel 4 BBC.
>Channel 4 BBC Just a side-note, Channel 4 is an entirely separate wholly commercial public-service broadcaster, whereas the BBC is publicly funded via a license that's required to watch live TV
>Channel 4 is an entirely separate wholly commercial public-service broadcaster […]
For completeness, from [1]:
>Although largely commercially self-funded, it is ultimately publicly owned; originally a subsidiary of the Independent Broadcasting Authority (IBA),the station is now owned and operated by Channel Four Television Corporation, a public corporation of the Department for Culture, Media & Sport […]
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone sets up their own account's privacy settings though, and as far as I know, this information didn't include anything that wasn't already publicly available.
The whistleblower said they had access to private messages. Are those ever publicly available? I don't see any privacy settings for messages in my FB profile.
It depends on when this all happened. In the past a lot more information was available than now.
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oprah-winfrey-old-white-pe... - FALSE
I see, so the proof that she didn't say so is a website with 3 embedded youtube videos where ... she says exactly that. Hmm, okay.
Yes, she said it. From what I can tell you've used what she said out of context. The way you used the quote implies that Oprah Winfrey wants these people to die or is imploring other people to kill the subjects of her quote. If you did not intend to use the quote out of context I'd suggest, in the future, using the full quote. When given the full context of the quote your post makes no sense.
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oprah-winfrey-old-white-pe... - FALSE
She did say: > there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die. She didn't actually say white, but what else was she referring to?
Let's not be reactionary and engage with the context of what she's saying.
This is exactly the way social tides change. At a first approximation, people develop attitudes when young and retain them until they die (it takes quite a lot of effort to change the mind of an adult, very little to change the mind of a child). If you have some social issue where you can see a generational wave, part of what's going to change the "average" attitude is for the older generation to die off.
She's not saying "kill all the old racists" or even "I'd like these people to die". She's saying "our society's average attitude towards race relations is going to shift in [what she thinks is the right direction] as the generation of people who were raised in a time when open racism was the prevailing attitude die off".
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Didn't Zuck take the idea for Facebook from someone else and then run with it?
It's a popular story, but out of all gripes you have against Zuck it's perhaps the least relevant. Especially so in HN, where the daily mantra is "the idea is worthless but the execution is". There are many valid criticisms against Zuck, and I don't think this one quite holds value as much as the others.
It is one thing to get an idea from someone else and beat them with a superior implementation. It's a whole different thing to partner with said someone else to implement their idea, then sabotage the project from the inside while simultaneously working on your own, competing, implementation.
The fact that those guys sued FB and got an extremely generous settlement tells everything you need to know about the likeliness of there being grounds for the claim. Truth be told, they won the lottery by being zucked, there's no way in Heaven or Hell they would have managed to build their own idea into such a success to get that kind of exit.
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oprah-winfrey-old-white-pe... - FALSE
She did say: > there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die. She didn't actually say white, but what else was she referring to?
If that is an accurate quote, I don't really see it calling for violence which is what people seem to be damning her for. Rather, it seems like that's what she's suggesting is that a certain segment of the population will never be convinced not to be racist because they've just been racist for too long. The only way for racism to die out in America, then, is for this segment of the population to die out as well.
A lot of American GIs coming back from WWII, Korea, and Vietnam developed a real and lasting hatred of all Asians. Nothing would change their mind because of their wartime experiences. The only thing that will change that feeling in American culture is when those men all die and nobody else carries such experiences with them.
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The crucial point here is that the users authorized the app to collect the data A quarter of a million people authorized the app to collect their data. It then gained access to fifty million peoples' data. Those extra data were accessed without proper authorization. All of the data were then used in an unauthorized manner. > What technical measures did he need to circumvent in order to get access to the data that y…
I get the point you’re trying to make, but I’m skeptical that a breach can be non-technical if there exists a technical framework whitelisting what apps can and cannot do. By implementing an explicit system for granting app access to user accounts, Facebook is effectively setting the boundaries of apps within that system. How can Facebook then arbitrarily pick an app utilizing the system that Facebook setup to protec…
> If it’s a breach, the problem is the system by Facebook. If that’s true, then there must be a “bug” (technical or not) that Kogan exploited in the system
Kogan exploited Facebook's lack of verification around restricting third parties' data access to that which users had authorized to be accessed by third parties. He should have only been able to collect a quarter of a million users' data. He was given access to more than he was properly authorized to access.
Kogan also exploited Facebook's lack of verification around his use and retention of the former's users' data.
> Yet the bug is the system itself
Which is why we're talking about regulation.
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
She did say: > there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die. She didn't actually say white, but what else was she referring to?
If that is an accurate quote, I don't really see it calling for violence which is what people seem to be damning her for. Rather, it seems like that's what she's suggesting is that a certain segment of the population will never be convinced not to be racist because they've just been racist for too long. The only way for racism to die out in America, then, is for this segment of the population to die out as well. A lo…
Exactly. I didn't hear it as a call for genocide but just a rational reflection on the fact that a certain generational segment will have to die before significant changes are possible.
Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oprah-winfrey-old-white-pe... - FALSE
She did say: > there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die. She didn't actually say white, but what else was she referring to?
> Eine neue wissenschaftliche Wahrheit pflegt sich nicht in der Weise durchzusetzen, daß ihre Gegner überzeugt werden und sich als belehrt erklären, sondern vielmehr dadurch, daß ihre Gegner allmählich aussterben und daß die heranwachsende Generation von vornherein mit der Wahrheit vertraut gemacht ist.
> "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
- Max Planck, Nobel Prize winning physicist who helped invent quantum mechanics
The impact of generations on social change is not an uncommon or violent way to look at the world.