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Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by IAmGraydon »

fortythirteen wrote: post #40

Just get the f### off Facebook, already. If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. If you don't like how Facebook is being used as an addictive propaganda tool by any and all political actors, including Facebook itself, then get the f### off Facebook. Ask the F…

>If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook.

Yeah - see that's not how it works. CA and companies like them have developed far more clever ways to influence you than targeted advertising. The best of these techniques go undetected by you, and are coordinated by machine learning systems which know more about you than you do. Basically, if you are online, you are under their influence whether you know it or not. Don't fall for the illusion that you aren't susceptible. As emotional as you appear to be from your posting style, you are exactly the kind of person that they target.

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by [deleted] »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #4

The arrogance of Facebook's response to this breach, quibbling over what to call it and now this, is mind-blowing. Their "it wasn't a robbery because we left the front door open" excuse may finally bring about trans-Atlantic regulation of social media.

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Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by horsecaptin »

maxerickson wrote: post #44
fortythirteen wrote: post #40

Just get the f### off Facebook, already. If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. If you don't like how Facebook is being used as an addictive propaganda tool by any and all political actors, including Facebook itself, then get the f### off Facebook. Ask the F…

Enough with the #. If you want to swear, swear. If you don't want to swear, don't. For fuck's sake.

I'm feeling very outraged.

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by tmuir »

makomk wrote: post #38
cycrutchfield wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CA also scraped the data of friends of those users, meaning that many millions of people had their info exposed instead of a few hundred thousand.

I don't think that's really the problem. I mean, Obama's 2012 campaign scraped the data of Facebook friends of people who'd signed into the campaign website in order to figure out the most effective way to convince those friends to vote for him via microtargeting and other techniques, in particular working out which friends their volunteers could most easily convince to vote for him. We're not just talking about gene…

Ah yes, that old classic, whataboutism.

You'd have us believe Cambridge Analytica was some vendor the Trump Campaign used sparingly, had very loose connections with, and saw limited success with.

Yet Cambridge Analytica is a Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon outfit. Steve Bannon, the campaign manager, and senior adviser to the president. Or at least it was during the time period in question. Steve Bannon was THE integral player who essentially managed the creation of the tool.

Here's a video of Brad Parscale gushing about the software tool they were able to use to glean insights that lead them to spend heavily in the states that mattered, but we're not in the conventional wisdom.

https://youtu.be/_fFbVwuU8bM

While your at it, here's the story from the software developer turned whistle blower himself:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analy...

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by mc32 »

sithadmin wrote: post #6
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #4

The arrogance of Facebook's response to this breach, quibbling over what to call it and now this, is mind-blowing. Their "it wasn't a robbery because we left the front door open" excuse may finally bring about trans-Atlantic regulation of social media.

>The arrogance of Facebook's response to this breach Is it even clear that there was a 'breach' of any kind that Facebook was responsible for? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems like the chain of events is: 1.) Third party (Aleksandr Kogan) creates 'personality quiz' app, Facebook users opt-in to share information from their profile 2.) Aleksandr Kogan hands off data gathered by the app to Cambridge Analytica…

People are going to call it a breach because it fits their PoV. When this happened with Craigslist people were calling Newmark all kinds of names and quibbling about ownership of the data, etc. [that since it was user generated Craigslist didn't really own it, so that all those *pad companies were not in breach, etc.

That is all it is.

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by allthenews »

warent wrote: post #59
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably worth rehashing the infamous messages: > Zuck: People just submitted it. > Zuck: I don't know why. > Zuck: They "trust me" > Zuck: Dumb fucks. A cynic would interpret the current state of the world to suggest that Zuckerberg, and by extension Facebook, considers a large segment of the world population "Dumb fucks" http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims...

That text was so long ago I don't think it's relevant anymore. Oprah Winfrey was also crack cocaine smoker in a cycle of abusive relationships in her late twenties. If people choose to change their perspectives they can, and everything indicates that Mark has matured quite a bit since then.

Sure, if by matured, you mean that zuck has refined his ability to harvest and use personal data without any sort of qualms.

What Facebook has become is technically brilliant, but the "dumb fuck" attitude shows no signs of having lessened.

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by [deleted] »

warent wrote: post #59
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably worth rehashing the infamous messages: > Zuck: People just submitted it. > Zuck: I don't know why. > Zuck: They "trust me" > Zuck: Dumb fucks. A cynic would interpret the current state of the world to suggest that Zuckerberg, and by extension Facebook, considers a large segment of the world population "Dumb fucks" http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims...

That text was so long ago I don't think it's relevant anymore. Oprah Winfrey was also crack cocaine smoker in a cycle of abusive relationships in her late twenties. If people choose to change their perspectives they can, and everything indicates that Mark has matured quite a bit since then.

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Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by TAForObvReasons »

allthenews wrote: post #66
warent wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That text was so long ago I don't think it's relevant anymore. Oprah Winfrey was also crack cocaine smoker in a cycle of abusive relationships in her late twenties. If people choose to change their perspectives they can, and everything indicates that Mark has matured quite a bit since then.

Sure, if by matured, you mean that zuck has refined his ability to harvest and use personal data without any sort of qualms. What Facebook has become is technically brilliant, but the "dumb fuck" attitude shows no signs of having lessened.

More importantly, those views were of the early days of the company. It's very likely that the early hires and executives also shared the same views. Unless everyone in that cohort had a change of heart or the entire executive slate was turned over, the company likely reflects the same views about the "dumb fucks"

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by gowld »

warent wrote: post #59
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably worth rehashing the infamous messages: > Zuck: People just submitted it. > Zuck: I don't know why. > Zuck: They "trust me" > Zuck: Dumb fucks. A cynic would interpret the current state of the world to suggest that Zuckerberg, and by extension Facebook, considers a large segment of the world population "Dumb fucks" http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims...

That text was so long ago I don't think it's relevant anymore. Oprah Winfrey was also crack cocaine smoker in a cycle of abusive relationships in her late twenties. If people choose to change their perspectives they can, and everything indicates that Mark has matured quite a bit since then.

What indicates that Mark has matured quite a bit since then?

Re: Facebook suspended the account of whistleblower who exposed Cambridge Analytica

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Post by gowld »

watertom wrote: post #50
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably worth rehashing the infamous messages: > Zuck: People just submitted it. > Zuck: I don't know why. > Zuck: They "trust me" > Zuck: Dumb fucks. A cynic would interpret the current state of the world to suggest that Zuckerberg, and by extension Facebook, considers a large segment of the world population "Dumb fucks" http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims...

Didn't Zuck take the idea for Facebook from someone else and then run with it?

No. The "idea" was already quite old. He scammed the scammers: he stole the company from the "idea guys" who tried to hire a naive nerd to build a company for them and hand it over.
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