Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street
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#2On purpose to protect something "more valuable," or on accident?
Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street
#3On purpose to protect something "more valuable," or on accident?
There's an old saying around gun owners: "There's no such thing as a firearms accident. Only negligence."
I think the same thing applies to autonomous things.
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#4Is this the first death ever?
(Do we count Tesla's autopilot as self-driving?)
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#5Obviously more information is needed, but I thought the entire point of having a driver behind the wheel is to manually intervene to prevent this very situation?
I'm very curious to see how they'll investigate this and who will be determined to be at fault (person behind the wheel or Uber). It will likely set a precedent.
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#6Uber's self-driving program seems to be one of the most unethical, most poorly-run in the entire industry. There were plenty of reports before warning us of the questionable quality of their research: cars changing lanes suddenly, blowing red lights, and now one finally killed someone. Every prior incident should have been treated as a serious matter.
Waymo et al has had none of these issues. Time to revoke their licence to test?
Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street
#7On purpose to protect something "more valuable," or on accident?
Forgive me, I don't understand what you mean. Please elaborate.
Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street
#8Striking a pedestrian in a crosswalk is horrible and terrible news. The reality though is how many pedestrians are hit by manual driver's vs automous drivers? On a percentage basis I gotta believe autonomous cars are orders of magnitude safer. Self driving cars aren't going to be perfect. How many people lost their lives in early factories to machines during the industral revolution? Imagine if they had pulled the plugs back then.
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#9FTA:
"The Uber vehicle was reportedly driving early Monday when a woman walking outside of the crosswalk was struck.
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Tempe Police says the vehicle was in autonomous mode at the time of the crash and a vehicle operator was also behind the wheel."
That's a very bad look; the whole point of self-driving cars is that they can react to unexpected circumstances much more quickly than a human operator, such as when someone walks out into the road. Sounds like Uber's platform may not be up to that standard yet, which makes me wonder why they're on public roads.
On the other hand, it sounds like it happened very recently; I guess we'll have to wait and see what happened.
Re: Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona woman crossing street
#10Uber's self-driving program seems to be one of the most unethical, most poorly-run in the entire industry. There were plenty of reports before warning us of the questionable quality of their research: cars changing lanes suddenly, blowing red lights, and now one finally killed someone. Every prior incident should have been treated as a serious matter. Waymo et al has had none of these issues. Time to revoke their lic…
> Uber's self-driving program seems to be one of the most unethical, most poorly-run in the entire industry.
I mean, it's Uber. I'm not sure exactly what people were expecting. Their entire schtick is being unethical and poorly-run.