Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by anocendi » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 3:56 PM UTC

The events are in motion which will eventually culminate in long-awaited David Fincher's sequel, "The Anti-social Network."

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by criddell » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 3:57 PM UTC

subbz wrote: post #17

criddell wrote: post #14

Where would Facebook users migrate to?

They're already. Especially the youngsters. The new time waste machine is Facebook again, but with a different name: Instagram.

Good point.

I love Instagram. It's the only social network I use regularly. I like Twitter, but I use it in a read-only way and only check it maybe once or twice a month.

Instagram though, is fantastic, at least for now. They are starting to ruin it with ads though. I wish I could pay for an ad-free version.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by dpark » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 4:03 PM UTC

Panjam wrote: post #42

non_sequitur wrote: post #4

I keep thinking about this article[1] whenever I see bad press about FB lately. Relevant portion: "Murdoch hosted Zuckerberg at his Sun Valley, Idaho, villa and expressed discontent with Facebook's News Feed algorithm and its handling of news. He requested Facebook consult publishing partners and be more generous sharing digital ad revenue, or he vowed, News Corp executives would take their dislike of Facebook public…

Interesting information, thank you. The knives do seem to be out for FB right now, but equally it is the douchiest of douchebag business models, essentially: we'll give you a means to engage with the world, but we're going to watch how you do it, in order to manipulate your preferences. It's like the Stasi but in corporate form. Essentially, it will die because it's the Harvey Weinstein of corporate America - and bec…

> Essentially, it will die because it's the Harvey Weinstein of corporate America - and because all the #metoo victims find their voice, with a little help from the other studio heads which would like to see the monster disappear.

What exactly are you trying to say about Facebook with this forced metaphor?

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by aylmao » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 4:05 PM UTC

jnbiche wrote: post #36

mseebach wrote: post #2

No. I think you're overestimating how much bad press Facebook is actually getting outside the tech bubble. Facebook is going to get done in by the fact that the younger generation doesn't like it, but that process has been underway for a few years now, and it will take many more years to complete (obviously offering Zuckerberg many chances to turn the ship around).

> No. I think you're overestimating how much bad press Facebook is actually getting outside the tech bubble. If you think Facebook is only getting hammered inside the tech bubble, you probably are living inside the tech bubble. People are waking up to the harm caused by Facebook everywhere . My non-technical friends' raging against Facebook sounds similar to what I've been hearing from my technical friends for the pa…

> People are waking up to the harm caused by Facebook everywhere.

If you think people are "waking up everywhere", you're probably inside a bubble. Where I'm from (outside the US) Facebook is just doing business as usual. If anything its new features are growing (anecdotally, Marketplace).

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by notemaker » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 4:06 PM UTC

z2 wrote: post #6

What is the competitor threat or new rising star that will usurp Facebook's position as a people-connector? LinkedIn? WeChat? Facebook was in super growth mode by the time MySpace stagnated. Or does "end" mean something else, if not measured in users? Is it the year people realize that the idealized image of themselves and their thousands of friends not worth maintaining or checking?

It would be great if SSB [1] or something like it took off as the next-gen platform, but I just have a hard time seeing people actively change their online habits.

[1]: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by notananthem » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 4:06 PM UTC

I thought honestly last year it would die. I am on it, but my MBA program posts all their announcements/networking on it. Would otherwise go through and delete it.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by lainga » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 4:08 PM UTC

smcl wrote: post #27

non_sequitur wrote: post #4

I keep thinking about this article[1] whenever I see bad press about FB lately. Relevant portion: "Murdoch hosted Zuckerberg at his Sun Valley, Idaho, villa and expressed discontent with Facebook's News Feed algorithm and its handling of news. He requested Facebook consult publishing partners and be more generous sharing digital ad revenue, or he vowed, News Corp executives would take their dislike of Facebook public…

Trying to decide who I dislike more out I News Corp and Facebook. I think News Corp have actively done a good deal more "evil" than FB, while FB have mostly been just sort of clueless or ambivalent about their negative effect on the world.

As Truman said: "If we see Germany is winning, we should do everything we can to help Russia, and if we see Russia is winning, we should help Germany. Better to let them wear each other out."

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by remir » Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 4:09 PM UTC

A lot of people may be less and less interested in Facebook "the social network", but a lot of them are still using Messenger, WhatsApp and Instagram, so FB is still huge and dominant in the social sphere.