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Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by golangnews »

non_sequitur wrote: post #4

I keep thinking about this article[1] whenever I see bad press about FB lately. Relevant portion: "Murdoch hosted Zuckerberg at his Sun Valley, Idaho, villa and expressed discontent with Facebook's News Feed algorithm and its handling of news. He requested Facebook consult publishing partners and be more generous sharing digital ad revenue, or he vowed, News Corp executives would take their dislike of Facebook public…

I was thinking more of this one which is more directly relevant to abusing user expectations of privacy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims...

Neither murdoch nor Zuckerberg are admirable characters.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by jnbiche »

smcl wrote: post #27
non_sequitur wrote: post #4

I keep thinking about this article[1] whenever I see bad press about FB lately. Relevant portion: "Murdoch hosted Zuckerberg at his Sun Valley, Idaho, villa and expressed discontent with Facebook's News Feed algorithm and its handling of news. He requested Facebook consult publishing partners and be more generous sharing digital ad revenue, or he vowed, News Corp executives would take their dislike of Facebook public…

Trying to decide who I dislike more out I News Corp and Facebook. I think News Corp have actively done a good deal more "evil" than FB, while FB have mostly been just sort of clueless or ambivalent about their negative effect on the world.

> while FB have mostly been just sort of clueless or ambivalent about their negative effect on the world.

Sometimes clueless, sometimes willfully ignorant.

Both FB and NewsCorp have done immeasurable harm to our system of government.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by tzakrajs »

mseebach wrote: post #2

No. I think you're overestimating how much bad press Facebook is actually getting outside the tech bubble. Facebook is going to get done in by the fact that the younger generation doesn't like it, but that process has been underway for a few years now, and it will take many more years to complete (obviously offering Zuckerberg many chances to turn the ship around).

My guess is they will keep buying platforms and products to get customers without needing to innovate internally.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by jnbiche »

mseebach wrote: post #2

No. I think you're overestimating how much bad press Facebook is actually getting outside the tech bubble. Facebook is going to get done in by the fact that the younger generation doesn't like it, but that process has been underway for a few years now, and it will take many more years to complete (obviously offering Zuckerberg many chances to turn the ship around).

> No. I think you're overestimating how much bad press Facebook is actually getting outside the tech bubble.

If you think Facebook is only getting hammered inside the tech bubble, you probably are living inside the tech bubble.

People are waking up to the harm caused by Facebook everywhere. My non-technical friends' raging against Facebook sounds similar to what I've been hearing from my technical friends for the past 5 years.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by jonballant »

No. I can tell you speaking to my family and friends that are part of the "younger generation", while Snapchat and Instagram have grown in popularity (both Facebook companies) every person within their social network still owns their own Facebook profile. Furthermore it is still the standard to connect people around the world. Ask any person who has made a non-professional acquaintance while traveling to another country and I guarantee they will use Facebook to stay connected.

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by chatmasta »

non_sequitur wrote: post #4

I keep thinking about this article[1] whenever I see bad press about FB lately. Relevant portion: "Murdoch hosted Zuckerberg at his Sun Valley, Idaho, villa and expressed discontent with Facebook's News Feed algorithm and its handling of news. He requested Facebook consult publishing partners and be more generous sharing digital ad revenue, or he vowed, News Corp executives would take their dislike of Facebook public…

Or what? He’ll buy MySpace and outcompete Facebook? Lol! Oh wait...

Re: Ask HN: Is 2018 the end of Facebook?

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Post by awinder »

non_sequitur wrote: post #4

I keep thinking about this article[1] whenever I see bad press about FB lately. Relevant portion: "Murdoch hosted Zuckerberg at his Sun Valley, Idaho, villa and expressed discontent with Facebook's News Feed algorithm and its handling of news. He requested Facebook consult publishing partners and be more generous sharing digital ad revenue, or he vowed, News Corp executives would take their dislike of Facebook public…

Most of the recent bad press about Facebook involves its light-touch handling over causes very near and dear to Murdoch's heart, so I don't know if I buy into Murdoch being the one to put the screws to FB. If so, wow, talk about having your cake and eating it too.
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