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Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

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Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

#42
I will try to explain why I don't want to pay for note taking apps. Just an insight, I am probably wrong. Why ramble on like this? Maybe there is someone who can point me to a nice app that I can use.

The problem with most these apps is that I can't just point at a directory where the app should organise my files. I am not looking for something that saves my files to some strange (proprietary) format in an invisible place (some OS's app-data directories/online service). Putting files in folders is a problem that has been solved, it is called a file-system and all OS-s have it.

I want to work with a directory of markdown files like so:

- Easy to use on all my devices - Copy-paste images directly (biggest feature over a code-editor) - Proper code-highlighting and Markdown support support and generally easy to look at and use - Use normal directory structure for organisation - Sync using my normal tools (iCloud, Dropbox, etc), hence pointing at a dir - Search based on tags of some sort would be ok, but can't really see the use over directory structure

Apparently the top 2 requirements won out. I say 'apparently' as I ended up using Apple Notes for note taking as it is the easiest to use on all my devices and it does image copy-pasting very well. The only down-side is that there is no directory to point to at and it lacks proper support for code.

In reality I don't really feel the need to take code notes enough. I just put stuff in the `README.md` of a project that I needed the snippet for in the first place.

So I already have most of the features that I find relevant from a free part of my computer OS and phone OS (Apple Notes). Notes works very well, there is sync, pasting images works like a charm and when I really need a small code-snippet I can live with plain-text in monospace without code highlighting. Therefore I don't want to pay $1.5 (Bear) or any other amount of money per month.

I would pay a set price though for working with MY directories, but not ~$40 (Ulysses), rather than a monthly fee.

Especially pasting images from my clipboard is a must have feature for me. I'd also want to be able to work seamlessly from computer to phone to computer, etc. The last requirement being why just using Atom with git is not a good fit.

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

#43
I bought and used Quiver, but I'm slightly concerned about the lack of (frequent) updates. With many apps this is not much of a concern for me, but if I'm going to store much of my data in one, it does matter. As such, I've been, once again, working on moving away from this app into something more basic/generic to avoid lock-in.

FWIW, my needs/paranoia might not be relevant to others, and FWIW Quiver is a nifty app. Still, I do wish I can save others the trouble I went through to get my stuff into this app and then getting it out of that.

And FWIW, the storage format is quite amenable to export if you're comfortable with programming, so that's a definite plus for Quiver.

(I had issues with the search functionality, and that was enough for me to move away)

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

#45

I've tried lots of docs tools, but the one I've found works best for me is a self-hosted Dokuwiki. Dokuwiki stores it's output in text files (not in a database) so installation is as simple as unzipping an archive, and a cron job to copy the docs directory to s3 weekly takes care of backups. As a plus, you can easily allow collaboration since it is a wiki after all. Needless to say, you can use it on any platform wit…

Have you tried installing one of the markdown plugins?

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

#46

Having a personal notebook is a game changer. If you don't have yet, I highly recommend, tool is not that important... I just use Emacs and Markdown. It's like my permanent memory, and it's public: https://github.com/azer/notebook I even got a pull request once about a note on parenting :) Specifically about coding, the best thing is, I can quickly open a note within my editor. For example, I forget some rules about…

Apart from it being a bunch of Markdown files, what tools do you use with it? I keep trying org-mode but keep getting annoyed that it isn't Markdown. I'd love to find a Markdown equivalent.

i had the opposite experience; after org, i’m annoyed that markdown doesn’t support tangling code blocks.

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

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I like Quiver, use it every day, but it's development has kind of stalled/stopped for a couple of years, and it has some significant limitations. It's search capability is limited, and it can't do search and replace. At all. In any form. I had never seen a text handling program that couldn't replace text, but Quiver now has this distinction. If you need to do this, you have to open up Quiver's JSON in an actual text…

Speaking of cell structure, could not Jupyter fill the void? It also works on cells, accepts Markdown, LaTeX, and code from various languages.

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

#48

I use Quiver for everything. However it does have its limits (Mac Only) and development has stalled. I've tried things like emacs with org-mode in the past but it just didn't click for me. I like the simplicity of the Quiver format, just JSON blobs with markdown in them. For me a notebooking tool needs to have vim keybindings, tagging, searching, inline image support, syntax highlighting and preferably portability. T…

"Updated: Dec 19, 2017" Stalled? Everything has limits, which are the ones you found? I am not related to the app, nor a user. I am simply curious.

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

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I use Typora https://typora.io/ which has most of the functionality including Markdown, Code blocks with syntax highlighting, LateX segments, and is more importantly free and cross platform. It has recently added file list preview and tree view like functionality. Only missing on tags which are tricky because they break its pure markdown flat file philosophy.

It's a shame Typora doesn't spend a little time editing their site copy English. I could tell right away the creator isn't a native English speaker, but he could probably get someone in the Typora community to give the copy a once-over.

What are you talking about? Everything on https://typora.io/ is in English, support (http://support.typora.io) is in English, and Github issues (https://github.com/typora/typora-issues/issues) is mostly English.

I think the author speaks better English than you, or, at least, types it.

Re: Quiver – The Programmer's Notebook

#50
post #3

I like Quiver, use it every day, but it's development has kind of stalled/stopped for a couple of years, and it has some significant limitations. It's search capability is limited, and it can't do search and replace. At all. In any form. I had never seen a text handling program that couldn't replace text, but Quiver now has this distinction. If you need to do this, you have to open up Quiver's JSON in an actual text…

Speaking of cell structure, could not Jupyter fill the void? It also works on cells, accepts Markdown, LaTeX, and code from various languages.

Jupyter doesn't support search as far as I can tell, so you can't tag and search for notes.

Happy to be proven wrong though

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