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An Analysis of the Impact of Arbitrary Blockchain Content on Bitcoin [pdf]

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Post by AndrewOMartin »

gsich wrote: post #10
Moodles wrote: post #6

Some interesting graffiti on the bitcoin blockchain: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photo... I have always wondered this. What will a country do if someone embeds child pornography or a picture of Mohammed or something in the blockchain? Will it then be illegal to store the blockchain in that country? Is a link to such an image much different to an actual image? It seems hard to ever stop this…

The first one would be horrible. The second one, eeh who cares. Not much you can do about it anyway.

Certain people.

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Post by zeth___ »

Moodles wrote: post #6

Some interesting graffiti on the bitcoin blockchain: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photo... I have always wondered this. What will a country do if someone embeds child pornography or a picture of Mohammed or something in the blockchain? Will it then be illegal to store the blockchain in that country? Is a link to such an image much different to an actual image? It seems hard to ever stop this…

I haven't looked for obvious reasons but back in the day people were saying that there was already child porn embedded in bitcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671894.0

Which is why child porn is one of the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse: terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and money launderers.

That we are trying to apply flesh space laws to bits just goes to show how stupid we still are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime

Until we change the laws we have to meet the needs of digital computers instead of the printing press we will have these ridiculous ways of attacking useful new technology.

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Post by arthurcolle »

banachtarski wrote: post #9
arthurcolle wrote: post #3

god this is reposted so many times, SOO MANY TIMES public service advisory: read the whole btc wiki, there's a lot of great stuff in there! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Agent https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script Links of note: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bootstrapping-a-decentr...

oh great cryptocurrency zealot, how must we repent for our transgressions against the faith?

Unfortunately... you cannot. Your sins in particular are embedded on one of potentially infinite future blockchains and will be read back to you for the remainder of eternity, in shifts

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Post by philfrasty »

Moodles wrote: post #6

Some interesting graffiti on the bitcoin blockchain: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photo... I have always wondered this. What will a country do if someone embeds child pornography or a picture of Mohammed or something in the blockchain? Will it then be illegal to store the blockchain in that country? Is a link to such an image much different to an actual image? It seems hard to ever stop this…

There was a tweet [1] from Vitalik Buterin on this exact topic. He was arguing that „possession“ (as in data on the blockchain) does not impose risks on others. Tweet was removed quickly.

[1] https://steemit.com/ethereum/@titusfrost/ethereum-s-vitalik-...

Re: An Analysis of the Impact of Arbitrary Blockchain Content on Bitcoin [pdf]

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Post by Tomte »

zeth___ wrote: post #12
Moodles wrote: post #6

Some interesting graffiti on the bitcoin blockchain: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photo... I have always wondered this. What will a country do if someone embeds child pornography or a picture of Mohammed or something in the blockchain? Will it then be illegal to store the blockchain in that country? Is a link to such an image much different to an actual image? It seems hard to ever stop this…

I haven't looked for obvious reasons but back in the day people were saying that there was already child porn embedded in bitcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671894.0 Which is why child porn is one of the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse: terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and money launderers. That we are trying to apply flesh space laws to bits just goes to show how stupid we still are: https://en.w…

I have no need to legalize child porn just because you think it's necessary for "computers".

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Post by zeth___ »

Tomte wrote: post #15
zeth___ wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't looked for obvious reasons but back in the day people were saying that there was already child porn embedded in bitcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671894.0 Which is why child porn is one of the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse: terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and money launderers. That we are trying to apply flesh space laws to bits just goes to show how stupid we still are: https://en.w…

I have no need to legalize child porn just because you think it's necessary for "computers".

You already have hundreds of gigabytes of child porn on your computer.

What you lack is a program to decode them consistently (I hope).

You can read digital information in any way you please. An image is fundamentally two numbers that give you the height and width and a bunch of number triplets that give you the color values for the pixels inside. You can always find a transformation from any number to any image given you allow the transformation function to be odd enough.

To put it simply, you sound like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB3uQHa14g

When trying to outlaw some numbers in some situations.

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Post by mtgx »

How do you keep the blockchain uncensorable if you start accounting for child porn, and copyright, and all this other stuff that "needs to be taken down".

And if you do all of those things, why even bother with the blockchain and all of its cons in the first place? All that remains is the completely accountable surveillance of users, and I believe that becoming a bigger surveillance machine than even Facebook ever was wasn't the original vision for the blockchain.

I think that unless the main blockchain projects such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, and so on, don't start implementing anonymity by default soon, in a few years they won't be allowed to do it anymore.

Re: An Analysis of the Impact of Arbitrary Blockchain Content on Bitcoin [pdf]

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Post by zeth___ »

martindale wrote: post #16

Title is sensationalism. Actual paper title is "A Quantitative Analysis of the Impact of Arbitrary Blockchain Content on Bitcoin" — see also Illegal Numbers [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

The paper isn't wrong though. There are supposedly numbers that correspond to illegal jpg images in the bitcoin block chain.

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Post by aiCeivi9 »

bb88 wrote: post #8
Moodles wrote: post #6

Some interesting graffiti on the bitcoin blockchain: http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photo... I have always wondered this. What will a country do if someone embeds child pornography or a picture of Mohammed or something in the blockchain? Will it then be illegal to store the blockchain in that country? Is a link to such an image much different to an actual image? It seems hard to ever stop this…

> What will a country do if someone embeds child pornography or a picture of Mohammed or something in the blockchain? In the US at least, I'd hope that we probably wouldn't criminalize 1M people for the actions of 1. Hopefully in other countries they wouldn't do that either.

Well it depends. If blockchain stored on disk directly contains knows know illegal content it will be picked up by some scanners used by law enforcement. Just like pirated software it won't be enough on it's own but might be a good leverage in the original case that caused computer hardware seizure.
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