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“Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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It should, but this also illustrates a problem with Google Search that they'll need to grapple with in the future. Namely, that while they should treat all sites equally, in practicality there's not really much incentive to on their part. Think about it. Let's say Google does remove Pinterest altogether, banning the site as a punishment for 'gaming' the system. What then? The people that do search for Pinterest will…

Which is why they should have done it before Pinterest got so big in the first place. And honestly I don't think any significant amount of people search Google images wanting Pinterest results. People want images, they don't care where they're from. AFAIK there is almost no OC on Pinterest anyway.

> And honestly I don't think any significant amount of people search Google images wanting Pinterest results.

Sure they do, if the picture on Pinterest is relevant to the search term; they wouldn't have clicked on the thumbnail if it wasn't close to (or exactly) what they were looking for.

The issue isn't that people don't want Pinterest, it's that they don't want the closed nature of Pinterest, and even then, it's less an issue with Pinterest and more just a closed web problem in general. Consider certain IT vendors who won't even let you look at their documentation without being a current customer or handing actual information over to a Sales Rep and having it verified, or forums that hide their content behind logins or paywalls. Pinterest is a big target because it's big and has a lot of artsy stuff that might be useful for a simple project, but you can replace Pinterest with dozens of sites and the same rants would apply. The Reddit post to me feels like it's railing against an easy target rather than the actual problem of a consistently closed web with absurd demands for access.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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What rules is Pinterest breaking? And what would it mean for Google to treat "all sites equally"?

Please read the link before commenting!

Don't assume people didn't read the link. It's against the guidelines here and frankly it's insulting. People can read the same article and still have different opinions.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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> I don't see the problem ... because you didn't read the description of the problem on the Reddit post.

I read it. I still don't see the problem. A popular site ranks highly in search results.

"Everyone of these results requires a signup and log into Pinterest to be able to see it" is a problem.

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I read it. I still don't see the problem. A popular site ranks highly in search results.

"Everyone of these results requires a signup and log into Pinterest to be able to see it" is a problem.

Why? The image is visible in the search results. You search for images, you see images. What requires a signup is the Pinterest-specific content associated with the image.

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> I don't see the problem ... because you didn't read the description of the problem on the Reddit post.

I read it. I still don't see the problem. A popular site ranks highly in search results.

The goal of google image search is to let you find images you want, not to rank websites by popularity. Pinterest makes it impossible to click through to the image.

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"Everyone of these results requires a signup and log into Pinterest to be able to see it" is a problem.

Why? The image is visible in the search results. You search for images, you see images. What requires a signup is the Pinterest-specific content associated with the image.

[EDIT: nvm]

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It should, but this also illustrates a problem with Google Search that they'll need to grapple with in the future. Namely, that while they should treat all sites equally, in practicality there's not really much incentive to on their part. Think about it. Let's say Google does remove Pinterest altogether, banning the site as a punishment for 'gaming' the system. What then? The people that do search for Pinterest will…

Which is why they should have done it before Pinterest got so big in the first place. And honestly I don't think any significant amount of people search Google images wanting Pinterest results. People want images, they don't care where they're from. AFAIK there is almost no OC on Pinterest anyway.

>AFAIK there is almost no OC on Pinterest anyway.

And this is the key point. By removing Pinterest from the search results the user doesn't lose almost anything.

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Why? The image is visible in the search results. You search for images, you see images. What requires a signup is the Pinterest-specific content associated with the image.

[EDIT: nvm]

> Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO. They clutter the images results and do not allow users to obtain what they search for.

Sounds like they are to me.

It's not explicitly stated either way, but when people talk about "image results" it seems safe to assume they are taking about Google Image Search.

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Which is why they should have done it before Pinterest got so big in the first place. And honestly I don't think any significant amount of people search Google images wanting Pinterest results. People want images, they don't care where they're from. AFAIK there is almost no OC on Pinterest anyway.

> And honestly I don't think any significant amount of people search Google images wanting Pinterest results. Sure they do, if the picture on Pinterest is relevant to the search term; they wouldn't have clicked on the thumbnail if it wasn't close to (or exactly) what they were looking for. The issue isn't that people don't want Pinterest, it's that they don't want the closed nature of Pinterest, and even then, it's l…

Almost all the images on Pinterest are available elsewhere. If Pinterest results were not polluting Google images, the originals would surface easier.

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I don't really see a problem with targeting the biggest worst abuser. Not everything has to be a one-shot solution to grand problems.

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