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Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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That depends on my starting weight. If I weigh 120lbs then I'll take the muscle. If I weigh 220lbs then I'll take the weight loss.

It shouldn't. His point is that if you're 220, what you really want to lose is fat, not weight. Having more muscle will increase your caloric burn rate and actually help you to lose fat faster. This is why dieting must always be paired with exercise. To take the argument to an absurd extreme, the fastest way to lose weight would be to cut off your leg. Obviously "losing weight" is really a euphemism for "losing fat."

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Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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That depends on my starting weight. If I weigh 120lbs then I'll take the muscle. If I weigh 220lbs then I'll take the weight loss.

It shouldn't. His point is that if you're 220, what you really want to lose is fat, not weight. Having more muscle will increase your caloric burn rate and actually help you to lose fat faster. This is why dieting must always be paired with exercise. To take the argument to an absurd extreme, the fastest way to lose weight would be to cut off your leg. Obviously "losing weight" is really a euphemism for "losing fat."

> This is why dieting must always be paired with exercise.

No it mustn't. A lot of people have difficulty with the increased appetite that ensues.

Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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Really? The only time I'd have taken the additional weight is when I was playing rugby, and then mostly because I couldn't really afford much food. I was 20, 65kg and worked really hard to try and get to 70kg. Being hit hurt when I was that light (ok, it hurt at 70kg too, but at least then the other guy noticed me when he ran over me) I think anyone into endurance sports would take the weight loss too (based on the r…

I'm into running & cycling and I'd definitely take the muscles. Why exactly makes you think that an endurance sporter would take the weight loss?

Well, most cyclists (except for track sprinters) aim to be as light as possible.

Thus, at the elite level, one expects superior performance from smaller athletes in aerobic events where power requirements are approximately proportional to body mass--such as distance running and uphill cycling. (Technically, the power requirement scales more closely to mass, i.e. M0.76-M0.79 than does the power supply, M0.67; Swain, 1994). It is not surprising that the pre-eminent climber of the 1990s, Marco Pantani, is one of the smallest men in the peloton at only 55 kg. Anything that can be done to reduce the weight of a cyclist and bicycle, without compromising the cyclist's aerobic power, will improve hill-climbing performance.

http://www.sportsci.org/jour/9804/dps.html

Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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Really? The only time I'd have taken the additional weight is when I was playing rugby, and then mostly because I couldn't really afford much food. I was 20, 65kg and worked really hard to try and get to 70kg. Being hit hurt when I was that light (ok, it hurt at 70kg too, but at least then the other guy noticed me when he ran over me) I think anyone into endurance sports would take the weight loss too (based on the r…

The point I was making along the lines of, just because a heavy drinker might be quite slender, it doesn't imply that they're healthy. They've lost their muscle mass along with their fat. PS I am a Marathon runner and I'd take the muscle... And have you seen the quads on a serious cyclist?

PS I am a Marathon runner and I'd take the muscle... And have you seen the quads on a serious cyclist?

Quads, yes, but have you seen the rest of the body?

WRT runnimg, generally speaking (elite) marathon runners have much higher ratios of slow-twitch muscle than average. That means they will have lean bodies, without the peak strength or muscle mass of a fast-twitch heavy athlete like a sprinter.

Take a look at http://www.letsrun.com/2010/heightweight0504.php. The entire running world was shocked when Solinsky broke 27 minutes (for a 10 km). He's 6'1", and 160lbs - obviously still what most people would consider skinny, but way, way heavy compared to most distance runners.

(You might have good reasons to want more muscle - I'm just pointing out that it's unusual for a distance athlete)

Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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I'm into running & cycling and I'd definitely take the muscles. Why exactly makes you think that an endurance sporter would take the weight loss?

Well, most cyclists (except for track sprinters) aim to be as light as possible. Thus, at the elite level, one expects superior performance from smaller athletes in aerobic events where power requirements are approximately proportional to body mass--such as distance running and uphill cycling. (Technically, the power requirement scales more closely to mass, i.e. M0.76-M0.79 than does the power supply, M0.67; Swain, 1…

Yep, but most of us are nowhere near that level where we have so much that more muscle is a disadvantage ;) I guess it's highly dependent on how you currently are. Someone who does weightlifting in a gym could probably indeed improve his cycling performance just by removing muscle.

And of course sports performance is not the only criterion for choosing +5lbs muscle vs -5lbs fat ;)

Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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Last weekend I went out with a flask of Laphroaig (some damn good scotch), and was just sipping that most of the night. I let a bunch of my friends have some, and always came back with some left in the flask. It's a great way to drink really delicious scotch, share with your friends, and drink less.

Came here to talk about Laphroaig. Laphroaig is the smokiest whiskey you can get, really nice drop, from the Isle of Islay. Very flavorful. Perhaps worth saying as well, please do not buy a nice whiskey, and ask for coke mixed in. If you tried that in Scotland or Ireland, they would at best refuse you.

Re: sweetened whisky drinkers, a friend of mine who runs a rather nice bar (awarded best cocktail menu in the world from quite a few sources) simply smiles, says they don't stock coke, and suggests something else that's not as dominating to the customer.

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There are seriously people like that?!

Sadly the merits of prime lenses and the subtleties of optics are lost on the masses. Show up with a hasselblad medium format film camera and a Zeiss prime anywhere amateurs assemble and be met with confused stares

I don't know anything about photography and I still know a Zeiss lens is pretty damn good.

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I'm just not a Laphroaig guy. Tastes like Bacon. I prefer Balvenie. Tastes like maple syrup and burnt ash.

thats why i like Lapsang Souchong tea- very smokey and tastes like bacon

When my dad smelled the lapsang in my house he told me it smelled exactly like the boot polish they'd use in the army, back in Ukraine.

I've only used it to put infuse some smokey herbal flavor in cooking, its way too smokey for me.

Re: Scotch as a Diet Hack

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I'm surprised as to how you can talk about Scotch and Johnnie Walker in the same breadth. Sure it's technically Scotch Whisky, but it's a disgustingly promoted chain brand that convinces people they're drinking real Whisky instead of overpriced mass-manufactured tat, like Ginsters Cornish Pasties (made on the Cornish border next to the main road leading into Devon). I'm not attacking you, and I apologise if this has…

It's hard to drink Scotch in America without lining Diageo's pockets--I mean, they own Glenkinchie, Lagavulin, Knockando, Oban, Royal Lochnagar, and Talisker, among others. If you're claiming Talisker is mass-manufactured tat, I don't know if we can be friends anymore. And do bear in mind that Talisker is the largest component of the Red Label blend.

That's fair enough I'd say if it's hard to get decent Whisky in the states. It's difficult to get decent Bourbon in the UK unless you're willing to go for Jack Daniels or worse.
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