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I love perl, and I don't want to see it be dead, but there aren't enough libraries relating to my interests (games).
You should really check out the SDL bindings for Perl. It's getting to the point where the dev versions are almost comparable to PyGame. There's some really cool stuff going on.
(Second try at this) First, anyone who says that Python or Ruby is not even comparable to Perl is full of it or very mistaken. They are close enough that we quickly run into the narcissism of small differences [1]. Second, in my experience HN ranges from uninterested to hostile when it comes to Perl. I read lots about Perl, but many of the blogs or forums I frequent are Perl-centric. My point is simply that you shoul…
For a while, maybe 5+ years ago (7? I can't remember clearly) it seemed like Perl was stagnating a little. This was about the time Ruby really seemed to take off, and some neat Python projects appeared (e.g. Gentoo Linux). Now, even though the core language hasn't changed, there seem to be all sorts of clever Perl modules appearing which take advantage of a lot of Perl's highly flexible nature. I really like Ruby mys…
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FYI, I use Perl extensively for text file parsing and processing Yeah, me too, but that's the issue. It's great at that. Great at quick and dirty command line hacks. Hell, most of my PhD code was written in Perl. (Something I take a perverse satisfaction in.) But it's not great for rapid webapp development, it's probably harder to hire people, there are fewer libraries and interfaces and open source toolkits, etc - s…
>>But it's not great for rapid webapp development Interesting, do you know what you talk about and have references? AFAIK, there are some quite neat libraries and a better OO system than the usual competition (Ruby, Python, Java et al). Etc.
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>>But it's not great for rapid webapp development Interesting, do you know what you talk about and have references? AFAIK, there are some quite neat libraries and a better OO system than the usual competition (Ruby, Python, Java et al). Etc.
Observe the vague handwavy terms I used: I'm about 18 months out of date as I made the switch to Python around the start of 09. At the time, Catalyst was very unfriendly (a quick google - it still is) and nowhere near as rapid-accessible as Django, just because of the amount of head-twisting you have to do to get things up and running. It may have changed, but frankly I have little interest in investigating it, and I…
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You should really check out the SDL bindings for Perl. It's getting to the point where the dev versions are almost comparable to PyGame. There's some really cool stuff going on.
I had checked them out about a year ago and they couldn't even draw a line on the screen :\
amongst webapp developers, yeah. But amongst SysAdmins? Python still has a long ways to go before it reaches the stability of perl, though it's gaining. Also, CPAN is awesome. I don't know of another language that has a cpan-like tool that measures up to CPAN. SysAdmins are slow to discard a good tool; hell, some of us still use bash. Perl 5 has been dominant for most of my career in this arena, and things will be qu…
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>>But it's not great for rapid webapp development Interesting, do you know what you talk about and have references? AFAIK, there are some quite neat libraries and a better OO system than the usual competition (Ruby, Python, Java et al). Etc.
Post: "I've done a bit of X and my overall impression of Y in was..." Reply: "References, sources, double blind studies please! Prove you know what you're talking about..." It seems like asking for references has become a far too easy way to pull karma points, even against posts which make their sources fairly clear.
I asked because his claim went against what I've read on the subject. I don't really know, since I haven't really been working with web development for a couple of years (which is why I started with "Interesting").