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Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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I agree that sheets is no excel, but it does almost everything I need, and a few things better. A few examples: - JavaScript as a scripting language. (It's no python but it's nicer than vbscript.) - Builtin regex functions (regexextract, regexmatch, regexreplace).

JavaScript is now the main language for writing Office add-ins: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/excel/ex...

Does it work on mac yet?

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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JavaScript is now the main language for writing Office add-ins: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/excel/ex...

Does it work on mac yet?

They say "Cross-platform support: Excel add-ins run in Office for Windows, Mac, iOS, and Office Online"

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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office 365 is far inferior to google docs for online collaborative document editing. You can lock the doc in office, you get into situations where it's very hard to safely have people collaborate on docs.

I don't find this to be true. For the last 2 years I have been using G-Suite and recently went back to O365. I find the collaboration features in the new version to be on par with googles. Also the UI is better, the online feature set is better, especially for PowerPoint and Word. As for Excel the desktop version is still the undisputed champion but it syncs up very quickly with others who are editing the same docume…

6 months ago at my last company they used office and we used office 365 to collaboratively edit some word docs and we had a problem where the docs kept getting locked and others couldn't edit them. this doesn't happen with google docs. if you have a big collaborative doc its a problem, or was 6 months ago. Did it get fixed?

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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> If the result is that we have moved from MS straight into the arms of Google we have won nothing We would have won, at least, the freedom to use the operating system of our choice. Microsoft software means you eventually need to use theirs.

Instead, they force you to use their browser. It's not terribly different.

That's not true, but I bet it takes a little more to install a new OS in your computer than to install a new browser.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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There is nothing comparable to Powerpoint's ease of layout in the open-source world sadly.

Are you serious? Basic animations were super easy to figure out in Google slides, whereas I still stumble in Powerpoint. Perhaps it's because there's less functionality but I'm only making slides for internal consumption, so it just has to hide/show the relevant info.

First of all Google slides are even less free software related than Powerpoint (can't use them offline etc) but more importantly I said "layout" specifically. Aligning stuff nicely just works very well in Powerpoint.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do. Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write…

For anything other than Excel, I actually vastly prefer Google stuff. Collaboration features and not having to worry about files outweigh the (small) downsides for me by quite a margin. Sheets is a bit of a laggard, but it’ll get there in another couple of years.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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No Microsoft fanboy, quite the contrary. But ended up installing Office 365 for my SOs business (~ 30 people) last year. And I'm properly impressed, by the amount of progress they do. It is a solid offering for very little money. Yes something like Teams (Slack Clone) might be feel a bit betaish. But they are starting to add features such as recording of meeting, automatic transcribing and inline message translation.…

Yet they can't even support WebRTC for audio/video in Linux? They are still 5 to 10 years behind everyone else and are a dying company.

Utter nonsense.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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I use Outlook.com as my main email provider. And I'm managing to convince people to move off've Gmail onto it because of it's streamlined interface. What do you find wrong in it?

It's deliberately slow in Linux (applies to all Office products) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13932226 Issue still happens to me: easy to test switching agents.

That’s interesting, especially as that’s not what the link you’ve kindly referenced says. Congratulations on being able to change the user agent - Microsoft is not you and has to support decisions it makes. I can see why there’d be little cause for them to perform Linux testing given the small market share. So, if you were Microsoft - and not you - would you rather potentially break the experience for Linux users, or not enable what appears to be OS/browser specific code that speeds up the experience? Again, calling this a deliberate slowdown is extremely misleading.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Not sure what your point is here. Almost every single company I've ever seen for 20+ years has open sourced their developer SDK examples. It literally makes no sense what so ever to do anything else. This has nothing to do with what the OP was talking about which is open sourcing the core app.

The comment was about trending G Suite into open source. You've got to start somewhere. It starts with developer samples, moves into tools, languages (Apps Script), then sub-products. If you're asking for Google to open source it's products in one big blow, I don't think that will happen without smaller steps. I'm on the team that would probably best start the conversation of considering G Suite in open source. Would…

I'd be truly excited if Google was prepared to state it had any intention to open source it's actual web apps. But everything I know about the company says that isn't even an option. What you open source is the same as most of the other things Google open sources: The things that funnel you into Google's proprietary services.

Even suggesting that Google Docs, Sheets, and Slides might be open source someday is as unbelievable as suggesting Google's considering open sourcing their search algorithm. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

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