China is doing this explicitly, but the West has been doing this implicitly for a while. Doxxing people with the "wrong" opinion and emailing their employers, friends, etc. I pretty regularly see if on Facebook where someone says something and their post or a screenshot of their post is shared hundreds of thousands of times with test that says "make this person famous". To be clear people should be called out for bigoted speech. An internet lynch mob though solves nothing and just creates a forever alienated group of people outside of society with little to no stake in the future. We all, as in humanity, could use understanding the nuance of stopping bad behavior while also forgiving people for their pasts. I don't have all the answers, but I guess I wrote this as it's just a generally worrying trend I see with the internet overall.
China to bar people with bad 'social credit' from planes, trains
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#12Black Mirror?
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#13What if the west decides, we dont want Chinese people who are "allowed" to fly to Europe/USA in protest at this super silly Chinese idea?
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#14So if we assume they're getting their ideas from Black Mirror, how much longer until they start using humans for energy? [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/
Its a comic book..
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#15China is doing this explicitly, but the West has been doing this implicitly for a while. Doxxing people with the "wrong" opinion and emailing their employers, friends, etc. I pretty regularly see if on Facebook where someone says something and their post or a screenshot of their post is shared hundreds of thousands of times with test that says "make this person famous". To be clear people should be called out for big…
Woah, there's a difference between an "internet lynch mob" doing it and the state doing it!
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#16So if we assume they're getting their ideas from Black Mirror, how much longer until they start using humans for energy? [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/
The Chinese social credit system has been around in some form for longer than Black Mirror. Black Mirror got the idea from THEM.
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#17Black Mirror?
Yeah, season 3 episode 1 "nosedive"—worth the watch (on Netflix). You don't need to see any other black mirror episodes to get it. (Don't watch S1E1 1!)
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#18Soon... "Amazon to ban people with too many returns from groceries"
Good lord, if I was banned from buying anything on Amazon or its subsidiaries I’d be incredibly fucked. I never thought of this before, it left me with a thousand yard stare.
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#19If anyone wants to see some of the negative effects of a persistent 'social score' that affects real life I recommend this Black Mirror episode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive .
The Electric Dreams episode "Safe and Sound" also explores these issues, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6980876/
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#20From http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/10/26/black-mirror-...
"You won’t be eligible for … positions in public office … social security and welfare … senior level positions in the food and drug sector … sleep in a bed in overnight trains … higher-starred hotels and restaurants … Your children … won’t be allowed to attend more expensive private schools …
We have made extreme advancements in health care because people found flaws in previous practices and had faith that they could improve them. This can be applied to quite literally every single industry, which is why these ranking systems could negatively affect growth, innovation, and our entire economic system as a whole.
If we can no longer challenge our current state of being and question our surroundings, then how can we continue to advance as a collective? As a collective, many of our strengths lie in our differences. A diverse society includes people with all different strengths and brackets of knowledge, but if we’re all racing to get a better ranking, then we could lose a lot of those differences in trying to become “people pleasers” and adhering to social norms."