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As an aside: didn't Lamo report Bradley Manning, it's surely rewriting history to report otherwise? I didn't recognise the name at first because of this change.
The polite thing to do, regardless of personal politics, is to simply reassociate the person with the name Chelsea Manning and move on with your life.
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I know what you mean but i am not sure how much he knew about the things manning leaked. Considering what he did before i want to believe that he had a good reason why he did it. Maybe he really thought people were in danger
People really were put in danger. The Taliban targeted Afgan nationals revealed in the documents to be associating with the US. From a Taliban spokesperson: "We will investigate through our own secret service whether the people mentioned are really spies working for the U.S. If they are U.S. spies, then we know how to punish them." [1] I like freedom of information, but what Manning did was simply irresponsible. Ther…
As an aside: didn't Lamo report Bradley Manning, it's surely rewriting history to report otherwise? I didn't recognise the name at first because of this change.
That you didn't recognize the person based on the preferred name only indicates that you've paid less attention to the news than you thought you had.
I didn't know him, but I've known plenty of others with questionable reputations who've died as a result of mental duress. Before you comment, I'll ask as a bystander for you to think about whether everyone benefits from knowing what you wish to share. Otherwise, you'll just out yourself as an asshole.
Rest in peace, Adrian. Regardless of what you did, beneficial or otherwise, no one deserves the mind-shackles you had to live with.
As an aside: didn't Lamo report Bradley Manning, it's surely rewriting history to report otherwise? I didn't recognise the name at first because of this change.
Using a person's name from before they come out as transgender is called deadnaming and is a tactic favored among abusive people. The polite thing to do, regardless of personal politics, is to simply reassociate the person with the name Chelsea Manning and move on with your life.
I'm conflicted about this news. On one hand, he was one of us, and he shared his knowledge. On the other hand, he was a traitor, and he betrayed the trust of a true hero in order to put more unaccountable government power in the hands of people like Donald Trump. Who would have expected that Adrian Lamo would outlive Chelsea Manning? Did he commit suicide — as she nearly did?
Manning is no hero, let's not go overboard. At best, she made a well-intentioned but horribly reckless mistake.
So by sticking her neck out and releasing the Collateral Murder videos, she is most definitely my hero.
(EDIT: s/Damage/Murder/ - this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0)
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Manning is no hero, let's not go overboard. At best, she made a well-intentioned but horribly reckless mistake.
Is that the correct usage of 'at best'? Isnt that just minimizing the range of discussion? Shouldnt the objective range be: At best, she's a hero. At worst, she's a villain.
So, I'm gonna lay it out here as I am having a bad day and don't feel like censoring myself. I'd known Adrian since 1998. He came to 2600 meetings in SF and was a fixture there. In that time, he generally didn't make any friends. While he was gay, he was also stalking a lady at the meetings, and being super creepy about it. Eventually, he left SF and was homeless. He got in trouble for hacking the NYT and making hims…
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I'm conflicted about this news. On one hand, he was one of us, and he shared his knowledge. On the other hand, he was a traitor, and he betrayed the trust of a true hero in order to put more unaccountable government power in the hands of people like Donald Trump. Who would have expected that Adrian Lamo would outlive Chelsea Manning? Did he commit suicide — as she nearly did?
"Traitor" is a pretty powerful word. A more realistic way to look at it is that someone—using a persistent method of communication—told him that they had committed a very serious crime¹, and he then had to choose between covering it up or going to the police. Covering it up or ignoring it could have meant he was an accessory. ¹ Whether it should be a serious crime or not is irrelevant here.
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I know what you mean but i am not sure how much he knew about the things manning leaked. Considering what he did before i want to believe that he had a good reason why he did it. Maybe he really thought people were in danger
People really were put in danger. The Taliban targeted Afgan nationals revealed in the documents to be associating with the US. From a Taliban spokesperson: "We will investigate through our own secret service whether the people mentioned are really spies working for the U.S. If they are U.S. spies, then we know how to punish them." [1] I like freedom of information, but what Manning did was simply irresponsible. Ther…
You might think that American lives are worth more, but I happen to think that childrens' lives are worth more - of any nation - than any American.
Or have you forgotten the innocent children that were murdered in cold blood by Americans', as revealed in the video that Manning brought to the light? They mean nothing to you, right, because .. they're not your team?