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Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by KMag »

rocky1138 wrote: post #78

A totalitarian government blocking a service is a good sign they are unable to break its security and thus use it as a surveillance tool. It's a great advertisement for ProtonMail.

Vizzini: ... they block it because they can break it and want all of their adversaries to think it's unbreakable... Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I’m not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by Tepix »

When I visited Egypt a three years ago I was using Vodafone to connect to my mail server. They performed a MITM attack and stripped the STARTTLS from the SMTP dialogue.

I had to switch to the legacy SSL port 465 for SMTP to use encryption.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by ssijak »

For the love of everything, I can`t remember the name and can`t find/google it, of a private mail service also from Switzerland. It had simpler marketing and UX, maybe not even web clients and had some affiliate program and I think the name started with "m". Help?

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by ssijak »

ssijak wrote: post #114

For the love of everything, I can`t remember the name and can`t find/google it, of a private mail service also from Switzerland. It had simpler marketing and UX, maybe not even web clients and had some affiliate program and I think the name started with "m". Help?

Found it! Migadu.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by bogle »

ssijak wrote: post #114

For the love of everything, I can`t remember the name and can`t find/google it, of a private mail service also from Switzerland. It had simpler marketing and UX, maybe not even web clients and had some affiliate program and I think the name started with "m". Help?

If we're starting a list of possible alternatives then Tutanota is good (Germany IIRC).

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by teekert »

Spooky23 wrote: post #20
qwerty456127 wrote: post #18

In just so many countries (including those many people never know are in too) the state-led war on privacy and communication freedom is getting hotter and hotter. Some countries do it openly, some manage to look liberal until you look closer. Just try to start marketing a proprietary privacy-oriented messenger app or something like that and the intelligence guys will emerge promptly at your doorstep, demanding you to…

Technolgoists need to remember that tech is nothing without law.

Politicians need to remember that The Law is nothing in the face of technology. (You can't block fundamental math, you can't block decentralized apps that hide their traffic as something else, you can't prevent knowledge from leaking out, from anywhere, etc.)

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by bogle »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #62
louithethrid wrote: post #5

I sometimes wonder, wether paranoid dictatorships could not be fooled, by automatically creating fake users in fake relationships, sending each other conspiring comments and information. That way all those secret service snoops could be kept busy chasing wild gooses, leaving the normal people they usually harass into oppossition, to go on about there lives.

So long as you're covering your tracks when creating these and using these fake accounts. Covering your tracks by using all the tools that are outlawed and detectable, thus putting a bigger target on your back. If you're going to tickle the toes of dictatorially-run law enforcement, your security had better be watertight.

It sounds like a lot of work but if you performed it from outside of the jurisdiction you'd be safe. Not your friends and family inside, though, so still better not to be identified.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by incognito209357 »

teekert wrote: post #117
Spooky23 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technolgoists need to remember that tech is nothing without law.

Politicians need to remember that The Law is nothing in the face of technology. (You can't block fundamental math, you can't block decentralized apps that hide their traffic as something else, you can't prevent knowledge from leaking out, from anywhere, etc.)

You are thinking in absolutes. The politicians don't. They're fine with 99% solutions that cover the general population. The remaining 1% of dissidents will be dealt with by throwing them in jail, not by making the technology impossible to access so that they are forced to give up their efforts. Look at north korea or china for examples.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Post by kevinSuttle »

bogomipz wrote: post #54
kevinSuttle wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ProtonMail isn’t run by a data mining ad agency that works on military drones.

Not but its been around now for 17 years without a major security breach.

Kind of difficult to have a “breach” when the back door is wide open.
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