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Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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> but the more complicated models are run in the cloud This is a massive problem with home automation tools today. I need to rely on Comcast to stay alive to be able to turn lights on and off in my house? To me, it's an absolute dealbreaker. I've spent more time than I feel like I should have had to in order to control devices I own without any data leaving my LAN. Am I the only one who feels like it's a totally absu…

I think it's okay as long as it fails to a usable state when the internet connection is interrupted. To me, the bigger worry is having cloud connected video cameras (or microphones) in my home at all. Obviously many people are happy to trade privacy for convenience, but this this is a red line for me. There are too many ways for it to get deeply dystopic really quickly.

> as long as it fails to a usable state when the internet connection is interrupted

It depends on your definition of "usable".

For instance, if I want to tie 3 bulbs together (e.g. treat them as a single bulb for on/off/brightness/color) in SmartThings, that has to go to the cloud. That was when I stopped trying to make things work in SmartThings.

Comparing ST (which costs $$) to HA (which is free) is a no-brainer; HA will run Python scripts (or shell out) on hardware I own, on my LAN.

We, the users, should refuse to pay for anything that doesn't actually let us control our homes. The case for FOSS is stronger here than it's ever been.

Re: Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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From the Hitchiker's Guide: A loud clatter of gunk music flooded through the Heart of Gold cabin as Zaphod searched the sub-etha radio wave bands for news of himself. The machine was rather difficult to operate. For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive--you merely had to brush the panels w…

I wanted to post the exact same quote.

To understand the problem faced here it's worth trying to just watch people. Guess what people are saying to each other.

Re: Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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Brilliant home page video. Explains the premise quickly and clearly. I suspect the power and convenience will evaporate privacy concerns for many.

It could recognise a couple in a dancing pose and randomly play something appropriate. It could recognise heroic arms aloft and play applause. So much potential.

There are countless things we do daily that have loads of room to be simplified. Even getting an Apple TV where the remote can switch on the TV and the device, and auto-change the TV's source to the device input felt like a game-changer, but this could ramp that up significantly.

Re: Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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The demo on the front page looks super cool. Signing up and looking forward to more progress and updates in the future. I wonder how accurate the finger recognition is? Is it accurate enough to pick up numbers so your fingers can be used to change the channel for example? I did my final year engineering project with the Kinect (years ago!) and controlled a robotic arm to pick up an egg. Didn't know how else to apply…

As much as I love the anime reference (I see it on the TV on your homepage!), I would also be concerned about search result placement. It's unlikely that "Piccolo, home automation gadget," would ever be as popular as "Piccolo, DBZ character."

PS, please make this gesture an easter egg: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3671587cdc2afad44da412...

Re: Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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Wow, that short clip on your homepage is crazy effective. I understood it immediately. Super cool product. I would buy this in a heartbeat if it came in a self-contained hardware package that included the camera and a module that does the CV processing in a way such that no video of my home touches a 3rd-party server.

Thanks. I think in a few years we'll see devices that can do everything locally, and cost a reasonable amount. For now, like others have said, some of the models for pose are too complex.

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As an aside, what was your background before doing the self-driving nanodegree?

I taught myself programming a few years ago and did the ML nanodegree before. My cofounder Neil studied software at Waterloo and was an engineer at Pinterest.
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