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Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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Misleading title: "ProtonMail is being blocked in Turkey", it's not blocked in Turkey, but by one provider - Vodafone Turkey. And for full disclosure you should mention that you work for Protonmail when you post here.

> it's not blocked in Turkey, but by one provider - Vodafone Turkey Source?

The blog post itself "we determined that protonmail.com was unreachable for both Vodafone Turkey mobile and fixed line users."

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#12

Misleading title: "ProtonMail is being blocked in Turkey", it's not blocked in Turkey, but by one provider - Vodafone Turkey. And for full disclosure you should mention that you work for Protonmail when you post here.

> it's not blocked in Turkey, but by one provider - Vodafone Turkey Source?

It says in the post itself if you read it completely. You can also search Twitter:

https://twitter.com/okn_plbyk/status/973911230619537408

https://twitter.com/sahinn_oguzhan/status/974163059534106624

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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I disagree. I’ve recommended ProtonMail to many novice users and helped them get setup. It is so simple that I suspect many less technical users are using it in countries with oppressive regimes.

Aren't you actually agreeing? He's saying they'll use tunneling to get around the block so they can carry on using it.

No, he's saying that some (possibly many) users know how to use the service, but not VPNs or TOR. Therefore, they are easily blocked, compared to advanced users.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#15

Misleading title: "ProtonMail is being blocked in Turkey", it's not blocked in Turkey, but by one provider - Vodafone Turkey. And for full disclosure you should mention that you work for Protonmail when you post here.

> it's not blocked in Turkey, but by one provider - Vodafone Turkey.

But it has been blocked at the request of the Turkish government. So it has been blocked in Turkey (a large portion of people in Turkey cannot access it -- given how popular it is), and also blocked by Turkey (since it was government ordered).

I'm not sure what your requirement is to say that something is blocked in a country, but far more than 30% of users not being able to access a site due to a government order sounds an awful lot like a "block" to me.

> And for full disclosure you should mention that you work for Protonmail when you post here.

The post comes from protonmail.com, so it's already clear that it's from a representative of the company. I don't know what additional steps you feel should've been taken.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#17

They recommend ProtonVPN. Does anyone know the legal ramifications of using a vpn with shared exit nodes? EG: A 'crack' squad of computer crime investigators in Jackson Mississippi track illegally uploaded content to a forum originating from ip address [39.21.2.32] (which is a VPN exit node). Unbeknownst to you that is YOUR exit node now. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/digital-equivalent-rum...

Why would that be any different to getting assigned somebody's previous IP address by DHCP? It's non-incriminating because it can be demonstrated you didn't control that IP during the time illegal content was uploaded.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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In just so many countries (including those many people never know are in too) the state-led war on privacy and communication freedom is getting hotter and hotter. Some countries do it openly, some manage to look liberal until you look closer. Just try to start marketing a proprietary privacy-oriented messenger app or something like that and the intelligence guys will emerge promptly at your doorstep, demanding you to bake a backdoor in. Sad but true. I don't really know how are we (the people, who value privacy of themselves and of the others) going to win this war while keeping legal, it's an open challenge so far...

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

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In just so many countries (including those many people never know are in too) the state-led war on privacy and communication freedom is getting hotter and hotter. Some countries do it openly, some manage to look liberal until you look closer. Just try to start marketing a proprietary privacy-oriented messenger app or something like that and the intelligence guys will emerge promptly at your doorstep, demanding you to…

Technolgoists need to remember that tech is nothing without law.
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