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Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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Hi HN — we’re Marlon and Neil, founders of Piccolo (https://www.piccololabs.com/). Piccolo is a smart camera that lets you control your TV, lamps, fans, speakers, and other devices with simple gestures. For example, you can point at your lamps with your hand to turn them on or off.

The two of us have had an interest in computer vision for a long time and were in Udacity’s first self-driving car nanodegree cohort in 2016. We started this as a side project to control one lamp and soon had our entire house connected. For some actions, we found gestures to be much faster and more intuitive. For example, pointing at a lamp to turn it on is way more natural than saying “Hey Alexa, can you turn on my left living room lamp?”

To set up Piccolo, you can place it anywhere (near the TV is usually best), and then on the app you can indicate with bounding boxes where the devices are. After that, you connect those same devices (Chromecast, Hue lights, smart plugs, etc.), and you’re good to go. Some processing happens on-device, but the more complicated models are run in the cloud. Since we’re not a security camera, there’s no need to store video and so no image/video data is ever stored.

We’re excited about the experiences you can build when you have a camera and apply computer vision techniques. With recent progress in human pose estimation, object classification, and object tracking, there’s really a lot you can do. We’re starting out with gestures, but our goal is to build a platform that lets anyone create and deploy vision apps. Here's a few things we're excited about:

- New apps. For example an app that detects medical emergencies (like an elderly person falling). We'd also love an app that can tell you where you left your phone and keys.

- App integrations. For example, letting Netflix know which people are in the room to get tailored recommendations for everyone vs. just the person signed in.

- Smarter hardware. For example, an Espresso machine that, with one click, makes your favorite drink because it knows who pressed the button.

- Voice-vision fusion. You should be able to trigger Alexa just by gazing at the Alexa device instead of saying "Alexa". You should also be able to hold something and say "Order 5 more of these".

We're giving away 20 pre-release units next month to anyone that joins the waitlist. We’re happy to answer any questions and look forward to your feedback. If you want to follow up, our emails are marlon@piccololabs.com and neil@piccololabs.com.

Re: Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

#2
I think this is a great idea, it reminds me a lot of the OpenPose library. I found very interesting how you found each other via Udacity's course. Could you expand on how you went about actually teaming up and starting out? Thanks and good luck with the final pitch!

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post #2

I think this is a great idea, it reminds me a lot of the OpenPose library. I found very interesting how you found each other via Udacity's course. Could you expand on how you went about actually teaming up and starting out? Thanks and good luck with the final pitch!

Yes, OpenPose gave us a lot of inspiration. DensePose is similarly impressive and came out recently.

We did the course together but met many years before, in high school in Canada in '07.

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I had a similar thought on the OpenPose library. How did your team end up with such a robust model without using OpenPose? As far as I know, OpenPose is only licensed for Academic use and was created using the Panoptic dataset which I believe is open. The problem is, creating a system that reaches the parity level of OpenPose with simple 2D image rec could be a startup in itself. I'm a bit cynical...

EDIT: you answered my question with DensePose. Had no idea that exists!

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Smartthings integration would be nice. I mean I guess its possible to do it yourself, but out of the box would be sweet because all my lights and motion run off it.

That’s a great suggestion. We are working on connecting with a few different smart home hubs including smartthings.

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First off, signed up. This looks like a pretty sweet tool for home automation.

I'm slowly adding home automation to my house, but I'm a little more privacy oriented. I totally recognize I might not be your target audience with some of my constraints. Couple questions: If the service is paid (monthly or for a 1 time app purchase); how much is getting published to your servers? Because I like the control over something as intrusive as cameras in my house I'd prefer to self-host as much as I can.

Does it have to be the camera you provide/sell or could a high enough quality camera do that?

Re: Launch HN: Piccolo (YC W18) – Camera for controlling your home with gestures

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> but the more complicated models are run in the cloud

This is a massive problem with home automation tools today. I need to rely on Comcast to stay alive to be able to turn lights on and off in my house? To me, it's an absolute dealbreaker. I've spent more time than I feel like I should have had to in order to control devices I own without any data leaving my LAN. Am I the only one who feels like it's a totally absurd situation?

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