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Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

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Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

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Remember who was on the Board of Theranos. These upstanding Americans will never serve a day in Prison including Holmes and Balwani. Shkreli on the other hand was thrown in prison for raising the price of a drug, making money for his investors and offering a reward for one hair. Justice has been served. Junk away....

Shkreli was actually thrown in jail for comprehensively defrauding investors.

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Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

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SEC doesn't put people in prison, it can refer to Justice Department for prosecution. Whether it does or not, depends on the circumstances of the case. They prefer quick resolution rather than years of litigation.

Yeah, it's easy for the government to threaten plebs with prison for misreporting a few thousands in taxes...because they can't defend themselves like Holmes does.

let's dispense with political bullshit. A protracted lawsuit would cost the government millions of dollars with an uncertain outcome. Instead, Holmes is paying the government 500K and returning shares. The SEC is going to court against Balwani, where the case is presumably stronger. the plebs is strictly better off and not everything the government does is bad.

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

#53

Ok, this is the money line in that press release for me: “The charges against Theranos, Holmes, and Balwani make clear that there is no exemption from the anti-fraud provisions of the federal securities laws simply because a company is non-public, development-stage, or the subject of exuberant media attention.” For all those entrepreneurs are trying to "fake it until you make it" be aware that the SEC considers your…

It's worth nothing that one of Theranos's VC funders, Tim Draper, did defend Holmes despite the fraud allegations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11973102 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/theranos-investor-cl...

Someone called Tim Draper the Trump of Venture Capital[1] :)

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11973420

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

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What exactly needs to happen for white collar criminals to be punished commensurate with their crime and consistent with the magnitude of "regular" criminals' punishment? Holmes' punishment is effectively nil. Meanwhile: [1] A man sells $40 with of cocaine and eventually 5.9g of weed lands him 20 years in prison. [2] "Illegal" voting lands a woman 8 years and deportation. [3] Possession of a few shotgun shells gets a…

The SEC can't jail people, they only have civil authority. They can only refer criminal cases to the us attorneys and DOJ and offer assistance (and i assume they did)

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

#55

Ok, this is the money line in that press release for me: “The charges against Theranos, Holmes, and Balwani make clear that there is no exemption from the anti-fraud provisions of the federal securities laws simply because a company is non-public, development-stage, or the subject of exuberant media attention.” For all those entrepreneurs are trying to "fake it until you make it" be aware that the SEC considers your…

The more SEC oversteps their boundaries, the less anyone will take them seriously.

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

#56

Ok, this is the money line in that press release for me: “The charges against Theranos, Holmes, and Balwani make clear that there is no exemption from the anti-fraud provisions of the federal securities laws simply because a company is non-public, development-stage, or the subject of exuberant media attention.” For all those entrepreneurs are trying to "fake it until you make it" be aware that the SEC considers your…

It's worth nothing that one of Theranos's VC funders, Tim Draper, did defend Holmes despite the fraud allegations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11973102 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/theranos-investor-cl...

Tim Draper also stands to gain from Theranos being reviewed positively, valid product or not, being an investor.

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

#57

Ok, this is the money line in that press release for me: “The charges against Theranos, Holmes, and Balwani make clear that there is no exemption from the anti-fraud provisions of the federal securities laws simply because a company is non-public, development-stage, or the subject of exuberant media attention.” For all those entrepreneurs are trying to "fake it until you make it" be aware that the SEC considers your…

I think there is a significant difference between lying about what you can do (fraud) and simply saying you hope to accomplish something.

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember who was on the Board of Theranos. These upstanding Americans will never serve a day in Prison including Holmes and Balwani. Shkreli on the other hand was thrown in prison for raising the price of a drug, making money for his investors and offering a reward for one hair. Justice has been served. Junk away....

Shkreli was actually thrown in jail for comprehensively defrauding investors.

Yeah...hehehe....sure he was...

And Elizabeth thought her technology actually worked. A honest mistake...

Junk away....

Re: Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged with Fraud

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Many people are in jail today because they can't post bail. You can discourage ever facing incarceration by being able to afford a good legal defense. You can be forced to accept incarceration without conviction because you are poor.

"In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread" - Anatole France

My mom was a judge, and I learned that saying because she had it posted in her chambers.
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