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Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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qalmakka wrote: post #54
jimmies wrote: post #21

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To me, that makes a lot of sense. Having only one architecture to support and one image to rule them all across the product line is quite a great thing to have. The other day, there was a person who had a "reddit gold" bounty for the first person who can help them get the Pi 0 online. The person basically couldn't get the Pi Zero on the wireless network. They had no USB-OTG adapter or mini HDMI adapter they could use…

Yes, but then promoting the Raspberry Pi as "64 bit product" seems almost gimmicky to me. Ok, you switched to an AArch64 chip, but that was simply because it's what your supplier was producing at that time. It makes no sense to me to promote a feature you don't support or make use of, if not for simple and pure marketing reasons.

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Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by kingosticks »

onesun wrote: post #119
kingosticks wrote: post #109

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The last time I checked out the Asus Tinker it was still suffering from horrendous software support and cost nearly twice as much in the UK (which it still does, £32 vs £55). So unless you NEED those extra features, I strongly disagree.

I bought one and played with it over the holidays and there are a ton of OS options now. There's Armbian support now, which wasn't around at first, and it seems to be very stable and feature complete. The board is significantly more powerful than a Pi 3 with emulators and compiling and just about everything.

I had so many problems with Tinker OS and I wasn't the only one. Never tried Armbian so maybe it's better, how's the graphics performance with that?

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by bunderbunder »

qalmakka wrote: post #17

"Just over two years ago, we released Raspberry Pi 3 Model B. This was our first 64-bit product" Very unfortunate that their in-house developed and promoted OS ("Raspbian") only supports armv7, thus leaving the vast majority that doesn't know about the existence of (or how to use) archlinux ARM an the likes with a 32 bit os. Am I the only one that doesn't get the sense out of this here? Debian supports Aarch64 out of…

I'm really pretty OK with it. The thing only has 1GB of RAM, so there's not a whole lot of value in having a >4GB address space. Might as well default to having the perf boost and reduction in memory consumption that comes with pointers that are half as big.

People who actually have a use for 64bit on their pis will generally know what to do, and I'm guessing most of of them won't have a whole lot of use for the streamlined UX that is Raspbian's raison d'etre, anyway.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by ozim »

r_singh wrote: post #56

I'm a big fan of the Raspberry Pi community in general and have used it for multiple applications over the years; most recently as a media center TV box. However, the hardware now feels old and I wish for more of an update from the Pi foundation. If anyone hear is looking for a true upgrade on the Pi, try the ODROID C2, it's years ahead of the Pi in terms of performance.

I don't care that much about performance. Support and all stuff I get to play with on RPi is more important. Why would I need more ram or faster cpu to read temperature sensor and send show it on a website?

Then you get people who do projects that would fit on 8 bit processor, like reading sensor and then switching relay depending on sensor value. That is gross overkill.

If you have more ambitious projects like streaming video, which I have seen somewhere in thread, or mining cryptos, maybe RPi is not best choice.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by moftz »

jimmies wrote: post #21
qalmakka wrote: post #17

"Just over two years ago, we released Raspberry Pi 3 Model B. This was our first 64-bit product" Very unfortunate that their in-house developed and promoted OS ("Raspbian") only supports armv7, thus leaving the vast majority that doesn't know about the existence of (or how to use) archlinux ARM an the likes with a 32 bit os. Am I the only one that doesn't get the sense out of this here? Debian supports Aarch64 out of…

To me, that makes a lot of sense. Having only one architecture to support and one image to rule them all across the product line is quite a great thing to have. The other day, there was a person who had a "reddit gold" bounty for the first person who can help them get the Pi 0 online. The person basically couldn't get the Pi Zero on the wireless network. They had no USB-OTG adapter or mini HDMI adapter they could use…

It would be even easier and less vague to just pop out the SD card, open up /etc/network/interfaces, and edit that to add your network. Pop it back in and go. This is what I've done when setting up a new raspberry pi image without having any peripherals attached to it. I ssh in, configure the system to my liking, then make an image of the SD card for future use. I could even turn this work into a script that downloads new raspbian images, edits them for my purposes, then packs them up to be used later.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by hiram112 »

robotmay wrote: post #50
qalmakka wrote: post #20

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As a non-native English speaker, I doubt that. In general listening to English is quite complex for someone that has learnt English only from school; listening to a non native language (especially a quirky spelled one like English) requires quite a bit of excercise to fully understand the various accents and how the words pronounced often illogically associate with those words you've learnt from books. I personally f…

I really wish it was easier to find movies in other languages to help learning. I've been half-heartedly trying to learn French the past few years but it's deceptively hard to either find a decent streaming service, or to find torrents with French audio + subtitles. Strangely it was quite easy when I had a stab at Swedish a few years ago; a number of their TV channels have a free streaming service that you can access…

I used Audible (or just download books on tape from other sources) and listen to it at about 80% speeds. It worked extremely well for German because there are a lot of novels I like and have read in English. Same in Spanish.

The good thing about Audible or books on tape, is that you can read along with the exact same text, whereas movies with subtitles are often translated with completely different sentences in an attempt to convey similar meanings from the original language to the translated.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by izacus »

yipbub wrote: post #88
qalmakka wrote: post #54

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Yes, but then promoting the Raspberry Pi as "64 bit product" seems almost gimmicky to me. Ok, you switched to an AArch64 chip, but that was simply because it's what your supplier was producing at that time. It makes no sense to me to promote a feature you don't support or make use of, if not for simple and pure marketing reasons.

That there are other OSes that do support it mean that it is a feature.

Which OSes are that? I couldn't find a single one.
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