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Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by usrusr »

oh-kumudo wrote: post #5
freedomben wrote: post #3

Google is a private business and they can do what they want, but this disappoints me. More and more Google seems to be thinking of themselves as content police (consider YouTube is owned by Google also), and I think that's a shame. Perhaps it will open up a market for dethroning them. A serious YouTube competitor that doesn't demonetize content they find disagreeable would be very healthy, IMHO.

Can user sue Google if they follow an crypto advertisement on it, invest in it then find it is a fraud? It is likely self-protection.

If con-men give you money to find their next mark, you are complicit in their crime. Due to ad targeting, this applies to Google et al more than it would apply to dumb advertisement platforms like print.

It certainly would still be extremely unlikely that a victim would be successful in suing Google for damages of a trap they stepped into due to Google-supplied ads (just imagine what that would mean for kickstarter...), but chances of getting caught are not the line between right and wrong.

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by em3rgent0rdr »

gkoberger wrote: post #61
wallace_f wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the full story. They've been actually demonetizing, or in some cases removing, videos for political speech they don't agree with. Even former Rep Ron Paul's Youtube channel was demonetized--which is frankly just insanely ridiculous. Meanwhile media reports extremist content such as Nazi propaganda is available?! Another example is anti-Trump, conservative commentator Ben Shapiro. I'm not exactly sure who can be s…

This article was about ads, not content. That's the distinction I was making. Google is very loathe to remove videos. I haven't seen that often, outside of copyright infringement or something truly illegal. Demonetization is different. It's basically saying "we'll let you talk... But we don't want to reward you and charge our advertisers for it". It's a hugely slippery slope, of course, but... It's one thing to deman…

> "demand free speech"

The top parent comment was not making a legal "demand" but was expressing concern and hope for a fair competitor to arise which treated different viewpoints in a neutral manner.

> "ads not content"

Nevertheless many content producers rely on ads to sustain themselves, and so by unfairly demonitizing viewpoints google/facebook disagrees with, the argument can be made they are doing evil. And especially considering their power as gatekeepers of the modern avenue of public discourse, we should be very concerned about them picking sides, especially for topics with a political component.

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by cr1895 »

gkoberger wrote: post #62
bringtheaction wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They're stopping ads, not content. They’ve been removing videos from YouTube also. Which they are free to do, it being their platform, but my point is that they are removing content also.

This article is about ads. But, to your point: are they? Outside of copyright infringement and downright illegal content, are they really removing any videos? I googled it, and all I found were terrorists and copyright infringement being removed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/world/middleeast/syria-yo...

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by tudorw »

machinesmachine wrote: post #55

forgive me, but all i can say is: lol years too late

indeed, they seem to have been fairly happy pushing some fairly dodgy looking schemes via youtube ads, now there is some heat on them to take responsibility over content it's easier to ban them all, any attempt to corner these giants into human moderated content is their worst case scenario, if they are held responsible as publishers for the content they provide, their margins are too small for them to survive.

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by cryptomancer »

nukeop wrote: post #64
dunkelsten wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I only want just the _legitimate_ ICO ads to remain. I‘m sorry to bring you the news, but there aren‘t any. Oh, and just in case there are, the crypto ecosystem implosion happening this year will drag them along to the bottom of the pool together with all the scams.

Oh no it won't, that genie isn't going back into the bottle. Cryptos are here to stay, and they will continue growing for decades.

Hahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaah

breathe

aahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by ino »

wallace_f wrote: post #39
gkoberger wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're stopping ads, not content. Content and ads are very different things. Stopping lucrative crypto ads certainly will financially hurt Google, but is definitely a win for consumers. Most crypto advertising is 100% scams. There's a huge difference between letting someone speak their mind on your platform (content) versus accepting money to broadcast their message on your platform (ads). As for content, that's com…

Not the full story. They've been actually demonetizing, or in some cases removing, videos for political speech they don't agree with. Even former Rep Ron Paul's Youtube channel was demonetized--which is frankly just insanely ridiculous. Meanwhile media reports extremist content such as Nazi propaganda is available?! Another example is anti-Trump, conservative commentator Ben Shapiro. I'm not exactly sure who can be s…

> Even former Rep Ron Paul's Youtube channel was demonetized--which is frankly just insanely ridiculous.

perhaps all channels with political goals (candidates, parties) should be demonetized.

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by em3rgent0rdr »

provost wrote: post #4
freedomben wrote: post #3

Google is a private business and they can do what they want, but this disappoints me. More and more Google seems to be thinking of themselves as content police (consider YouTube is owned by Google also), and I think that's a shame. Perhaps it will open up a market for dethroning them. A serious YouTube competitor that doesn't demonetize content they find disagreeable would be very healthy, IMHO.

With the ICO/coin ads promising 49,000% returns that I see here in the UK, I’m glad that they’re putting the brakes on it.

It would be one thing if they followed a strict rule such as "we will block ads that present unrealistic claims" and then applied that rule equally across all advertisers. But the concern is they are singleing out one particular technology. That will harm those cryptocurrency business which aren't making claims about certain percentage of returns, thereby making it hard for a potential new novel use of cryptocurrency from being heard.

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by carlossilva33 »

"First they came for the crypto-currencies and I said nothing..."

For those with their eyes open, this is just another example of the current authoritarian trend sweeping the globe.

Yes, google is a private company but so are bakers. Unless you subscribe to "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others".

By the way, there is no distinction here between public and private powers. The State needs these big corporations to extend itself and they in turn need the State to regulate competition out of the markets.

Re: Google will ban all cryptocurrency-related advertising

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Post by pjc50 »

jMyles wrote: post #66
jsonne wrote: post #12

As outraged as many folks might be this is just good business for Google and Facebook. Internet advertising, nay advertising at large, is dangerously close to becoming a regulated, or more regulated, industry in the wake of fake news and Russian troll farms etc. If they aren't proactive and people lose money they inch ever closer to requirements that can and will eat large chunks of their profit margins. This isn't e…

> is dangerously close to becoming a regulated, or more regulated, industry You're absolutely right. And this is an easy, almost childishly obvious end-around to get at free speech. If speech is "political speech," then it is subject regulation suite A. If it is "advertising", then it is subject to regulation suite B. If it is "legal or medical advice," on and on. Until there are no spaces left between the suites, an…

Neither Facebook nor Google are ""pure"" free speech zones already, or ever were, and both already have categories of advert that you're not allowed.
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