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Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by khedoros1 »

dingo_bat wrote: post #39
khedoros1 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until your kid becomes outdated, and they stop making vaccines for her, sure. (I'd have no problems keeping up to date if Microsoft's support periods were as long as the medical industry's are for my child). At this point, Windows is going to end up just being my mostly-disconnected gaming OS when they stop releasing security updates in a little under 2 years. Windows 10 needs to dump the animated ad tiles and allow…

> when they stop releasing security updates in a little under 2 years. Not going to happen unless MS itself shuts down or they decide to exit the desktop OS market.

Are you saying that you think they'll re-extend the Windows 7 extended support period, or did you assume that I was talking about Windows 10?

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by LifeLiverTransp »

Everytime they overcome the carefully crafted group policys and firewall settings- i ask myself- what is the difference to a rather run down linux distro here.

The drivers do not work, i have no control over my system, the options they offer you- are like a toddlers toys- nice buttons to push, which the 'adults' can safely ignore on every update.

The only thing still keeping me in windows is the ecosystem of software, they have held hostage. But there is a exit sign glowing brighter every thursday: https://www.vmware.com/?PID=3607085&PubCID=2786910

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by makecheck »

It is possible that their implementation of settings simply sucks, not checking the off-switch everywhere it should. This is one reason I don’t trust Facebook’s huge list of “settings” either, for instance. In complex systems there are just too many ways that a switch can be ignored, even if you do trust the intentions of the developer.

A better solution for this (and Facebook) is to physically block at the client. And rather than providing “settings”, Microsoft should proactively encourage this too: the official FAQ for disabling updates should essentially be specifying the domains and IPs to block in routers for example.

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by boobsbr »

mdekkers wrote: post #40

I am so fucking done with Windows. Windows 10 has a lot of cool things I like and that are useful to me, but the only other time I felt such a complete lack of control over my systems was during a 3 month Apple Mac experiment (ended with an apple mac being flung from a 3rd story window). Research for the coming months: getting Linux running on my Surface Pro.

You're so fucking done with Windows that you went out and bought a Surface Pro?

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

dingo_bat wrote: post #10

This is the correct thing to do. They really must avoid another WinXP scenario where people were running 10 year old builds on internet connected PCs. If you connect to the internet, your device must be fully patched.

The very idea of banning unapproved OS's on a public network seems very at odds with the spirit of the open source community.

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by zeedee »

- Ignores options blocking automatic updates - Installs update assistant on your machine without permission - Starts downloading updates without giving you the option to stop other than killing the process (which just restarts again in a few minutes) - Re-installs update assistant if you try to delete/uninstall or break it - Re-starts update service within minutes even if you keep disabling it - Re-boots your machine without your permission

Those were a lot of "accidents". Some of this behavior was on par with most viruses I've come across... Seems MS were really desperate to get this update out.

Will be upgrading to windows 7/8.1 as soon as I get the time(until I am hopefully able to jump ship to linux).

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by sidyapa »

Windows 10 updates in the past fortnight have consumed 9+ Gb of my data after failing again and again due to my choppy wifi connection (there's no other option available as I live in a university hostel). Having limited data per month, this has made me buy up extra data just to get through this month. Being a student, internet is indispensable and Microsoft doing this is really bad on their part.

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Post by yolobey »

Oh boy, this happened to me despite using the enterprise edition. The system forced an upgrade, despite me doing everything to stop it, and every time the upgrade crashed and I had to roll back to the previous version. Every day.

I spent a month like this, on an always-on system, trying to shut down the upgrade downloader from the task bar whenever I can after failing to stop it from settings, group policy, horsing around in powershell etc. Before that, I had also tried to make the upgrade work by doing it manually, updating drivers, unplugging all the peripherals etc. but it kept getting stuck halfway through. So I couldn't upgrade, and I couldn't not upgrade.

Well last week there was an update to the update so I hoped at least the upgrade would work now and I would be done with this charade. Nope, it crashed again while upgrading, except this time there was no way to roll back and use my system. I am torn between cutting windows out completely and going back to windows 7.

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