I really don't understand people who think microsoft has changed. They still do shady shit all the time.
Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
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Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#12This is the correct thing to do. They really must avoid another WinXP scenario where people were running 10 year old builds on internet connected PCs. If you connect to the internet, your device must be fully patched.
Is it your computer or Microsofts? Because I really think the language in Windows speaks to you as just the guest, while Microsoft is taking care of your needs like a parent.
I guess I'm very hostile to that idea since I grew up in a time when my computer was my computer, not the property of an American software organization to decide for me what is best.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#13I don't believe this is accidental. It's a strategy to get updates out that help Microsoft, and then handle the PR afterwards. Most likely this won't get much attention and Microsoft gets away with it.
Capitalism within a "he who pays the most wins" style democracy has the motto of : Do first and ask to be excused later
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#14This is the correct thing to do. They really must avoid another WinXP scenario where people were running 10 year old builds on internet connected PCs. If you connect to the internet, your device must be fully patched.
Is it your computer or Microsofts? Because I really think the language in Windows speaks to you as just the guest, while Microsoft is taking care of your needs like a parent. I guess I'm very hostile to that idea since I grew up in a time when my computer was my computer, not the property of an American software organization to decide for me what is best.
It may not be Microsoft's right to decide when or how to patch your computer but from a public health point of view, sane policies already dictate mandatory vaccination. Perhaps you would be happier with the government enforcing mandatory patching to be able to connect to the internet?
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#15This is the correct thing to do. They really must avoid another WinXP scenario where people were running 10 year old builds on internet connected PCs. If you connect to the internet, your device must be fully patched.
Is it your computer or Microsofts? Because I really think the language in Windows speaks to you as just the guest, while Microsoft is taking care of your needs like a parent. I guess I'm very hostile to that idea since I grew up in a time when my computer was my computer, not the property of an American software organization to decide for me what is best.
No one is forcing you to keep using Windows. Plenty of people are happy enough with Linux.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#16Good. People need to fucking update. Don’t be dumb.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it your computer or Microsofts? Because I really think the language in Windows speaks to you as just the guest, while Microsoft is taking care of your needs like a parent. I guess I'm very hostile to that idea since I grew up in a time when my computer was my computer, not the property of an American software organization to decide for me what is best.
It may not be Microsoft's right to decide when or how to patch your computer but from a public health point of view, sane policies already dictate mandatory vaccination. Perhaps you would be happier with the government enforcing mandatory patching to be able to connect to the internet?
If software updates/upgrades can be cleanly separated into security fix vs new features/removal of old features, then I think it may be reasonable for governments to enforce mandatory patching.
Unfortunately, software doesn't work like that. It's hard (if not completely impossible) to separate security from feature updates.
You'll likely need to cherry pick git commits and build the software yourself. I don't know of any sane person who would spend the time to do that.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#18Good. People need to fucking update. Don’t be dumb.
Sometimes those computers are running critical medical equipment that fails on the latest update. There are good reasons not to update. Try and have a little bit of an open mind so that you are not being dumb.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#19Good. People need to fucking update. Don’t be dumb.
Sometimes those computers are running critical medical equipment that fails on the latest update. There are good reasons not to update. Try and have a little bit of an open mind so that you are not being dumb.
The only "dumb" thing I can think of is critical medical equipment being on a network that can hit Windows Update. It is on people Windows for production tasks that may be jeopardized by updates to responsibly handle themselves. I practice what I preach: my video encoder rig lives on a network that explicitly drops connections to Windows Update--but the machine is also firewalled away from the internet at large and only visits trusted websites as part of production tasks. Neither half of this responsibility is tenable without the other.
I am expressly not saying that "forcing" Windows 10 updates on users is a good idea--but I'm sympathetic, and I'm not saying it's not--but if you are running something like "critical medical equipment", it should already be incumbent upon you to be doing it right.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#20My understanding was you couldn’t block the updates on windows 10. Looks like in creators update, they offered ability to block updates/and this has been ignored. As far as forcing updates, it’s kind of a double edged sword... noble to protect the masses, but honestly it’s been a terrible experience. We had a small ‘pilot’ team give it a try for a length of time. It seemed almost every time the updates install, we’re dealing with failed network drivers, no displays, blue screens and the odd boot failure. Not very good for a professional services staff under tight client deadlines. We’re not upgrading to Windows 10 at this time.