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And how would rollover work?
It would wind up being visible to a large chunk of users simultaneously. Furthermore, since we're relying on the wisdom of the crowd rather than a true CA, you'd be able to trust companies' own CAs rather than delegating off to a not-so-trusted third party. In other words, if someone claiming to be Facebook has told a significant number of people all over the world that Facebook's cert fingerprint is ABCD124, and tha…
ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
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Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
#242The amount of money I've paid for this... I recon some of these providers are going under soon?
I'll happily pay money to get a cert that expires in 3 years instead of 90 days. Some of us don't feel like faffing about with cert renewal every quarter. (I know there are tools and clients that can "make it seamless" - until the ACME endpoints are down or something).
1. Ubuntu VPS #1: a. dovecot ssl b. postfix ssl c. apache multiple virtual domains ssl d. pureftpd ssl
2. Ubuntu VPS #2: a. apache multiple virtual domains ssl
3. Microsoft Server a. IIS multiple virtual domains ssl
Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
#243The amount of money I've paid for this... I recon some of these providers are going under soon?
I'll happily pay money to get a cert that expires in 3 years instead of 90 days. Some of us don't feel like faffing about with cert renewal every quarter. (I know there are tools and clients that can "make it seamless" - until the ACME endpoints are down or something).
Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
#244Can anyone list any negatives of Let's Encrypt? I've been using it since the start and just can't find any practical downsides.
The one that always sticks out is the certs’ extremely short expiration period. The IMHO weak rationale for this was mentioned in another thread here (See jjeaff‘s response upthread). It would be nice if they simply offered two choices: 1. I love automation! Give me a 90 day certificate. 2. I understand the security trade-offs. Give me a 3 year certificate.
Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
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For the standard LE certs, you need a public facing web server for the domain name in question, and LE give you a keyfile to put into: '/.well-known/pki-validation' For the wildcard certs, you just need to add a TXT record to the public DNS entry, no public web server required. Even if you have no intention of using your internal DNS domain name on the internet, it's good practice to register it anyway.
Is there a "standard" TLD for internal use that will also fit this requirement? The problem here is that there's no such thing as domain ownership, only domain renting. You forget to pay your bill (read: someone loses an email) and a core part of your infrastructure is up in smoke, or worse, taken over by a squatter.
I don't think there's a way around coming up with a reliable process for renewing your domain. You somehow manage to do it for lots of other things already.
Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll happily pay money to get a cert that expires in 3 years instead of 90 days. Some of us don't feel like faffing about with cert renewal every quarter. (I know there are tools and clients that can "make it seamless" - until the ACME endpoints are down or something).
I'm in the same boat. I haven't found a guide for an easy and flawless way to automate cert renewal with letsencrypt when you use multiple services over different servers. For my wildcard, I use the same cert for: 1. Ubuntu VPS #1: a. dovecot ssl b. postfix ssl c. apache multiple virtual domains ssl d. pureftpd ssl 2. Ubuntu VPS #2: a. apache multiple virtual domains ssl 3. Microsoft Server a. IIS multiple virtual do…
With Let's Encrypt, you don't need to minimize the number of certs just to save some money.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> developers who just want their software to work. Those devs are gonna be really surprised when they find out that unencrypted connections are routinely tampered with. > they either don't know or don't care about all the effort and pain they're creating You have not been paying attention to the hundreds of tools available to make HTTPS painless. > until someone at Big G decided they weren't. And Mozilla. And countle…
"It's their privacy being deprived." I wonder if anyone will be surprised when they learn how HTTPS and HTTP/2 will be used to push more advertising to users and exfiltrate more user data from them than HTTP would ever allow. Will these "advances" benefit users more than they benefit the companies serving ads, collecting user data and "overseeing the www" generally? Is there a trade-off? To users , will protecting tr…
We're talking only by HTTPS. Adding HTTP/2 is just mudding the conversation.
Care to give any argument on how does adding a TLS layer over the exact same protocol (HTTP/1.1) will be used to do that?
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> The preferable end-of-life date for ACMEv1 should be never. As would be the preferable end-of-life date for SSLv3 and HTTP.
The SSL zealotry drives me nuts. The infosec community screams constantly about "HTTPS everywhere", but they either don't know or don't care about all the effort and pain they're creating for developers who just want their software to work. How many perfectly good sites will be marked ominously as "insecure" by Chrome in the next few months? Sites that were working just fine until someone at Big G decided they weren'…
Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
> developers who just want their software to work. Those devs are gonna be really surprised when they find out that unencrypted connections are routinely tampered with. > they either don't know or don't care about all the effort and pain they're creating You have not been paying attention to the hundreds of tools available to make HTTPS painless. > until someone at Big G decided they weren't. And Mozilla. And countle…
What about hosting HTTP content because you verify GPG signatures upon download? These content would then be super easy to cache on the local network. HTTPS defeats this and makes it uncachable. I hardly ever see people talk about this use case and how to solve it with https everywhere. AND it's super widely used: e.g. debian repositories.
Because the rest of the content is not verified?????? That's the whole point of HTTPS????????
Re: ACME v2 and Wildcard Certificate Support is Live
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
The SSL zealotry drives me nuts. The infosec community screams constantly about "HTTPS everywhere", but they either don't know or don't care about all the effort and pain they're creating for developers who just want their software to work. How many perfectly good sites will be marked ominously as "insecure" by Chrome in the next few months? Sites that were working just fine until someone at Big G decided they weren'…
My favorite part of the internet were always the small hobyist websites. The guy that has an encyclopedic database about Grateful Dead trivia, the other guy that collects pictures of plants. Those people are independent, they're not technical and their 90s looking websites are going to go under because of blanket security policies that don't concern them.