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Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

#4

I don't believe this is accidental. It's a strategy to get updates out that help Microsoft, and then handle the PR afterwards. Most likely this won't get much attention and Microsoft gets away with it.

Pretty much the same as Mozilla Firefox.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/993765

"I've tried to disable updates through the settings, and without fail a day or so later it's updated to the latest version again. Any thoughts?"

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

#6

I don't believe this is accidental. It's a strategy to get updates out that help Microsoft, and then handle the PR afterwards. Most likely this won't get much attention and Microsoft gets away with it.

Pretty much the same as Mozilla Firefox. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/993765 "I've tried to disable updates through the settings, and without fail a day or so later it's updated to the latest version again. Any thoughts?"

Except - you can check out the (old) version you want, and build it yourself?

Optionally disable the update code first...

[ed: there's also Firefox esr for those that need an old (if not ancient) version:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ ]

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

#7

I always think that the "10 tough questions we got asked" [1] weren't really tough, and that it's still the same old Microsoft just presenting itself in a slightly different way. [1] https://www.gatesnotes.com/2018-Annual-Letter

I think nobody who was there in the previous era of Microsoft has any trouble seeing that they haven't changed. It's just because of a new generation without experience that they are getting away with rebranding themselves. People who go for Microsoft today will be locked in to their tech stack as always after a while.

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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"A strategy devised by Myhrvold the salesman was just as significant. He laid it out in a memo to Gates in 1992: "Regular upgrades are important for both revenue and loyalty...A feeling of progress and improvement is necessary to keep users loyal...and an important way to produce revenue. Upgrades are the closest thing we have to an annual fee or subscription."

source: Profile of Nathan Myrvhold https://www.1843magazine.com/content/features/myth-buster

Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much the same as Mozilla Firefox. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/993765 "I've tried to disable updates through the settings, and without fail a day or so later it's updated to the latest version again. Any thoughts?"

Except - you can check out the (old) version you want, and build it yourself? Optionally disable the update code first... [ed: there's also Firefox esr for those that need an old (if not ancient) version: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ ]

Doesn't matter if a handful of people get around it. The behavior for the masses will continue.
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