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A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”

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This is going to sound a bit out there, but what if your brain is simply an antenna for your consciousness to come through from wherever. Has anyone actually tried to boot up an artificial brain derived from a real organism? I'd like to see a proof of concept that your brain IS indeed the seat of your consciousness, and not just a fancy quantum antenna.

Yes, this is an idea one discussed and heard discussed before.

Of course, everything we perceive the material world to be is merely a concept we are holding in our mind.

DNA is an idea.

Re: A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”

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This is going to sound a bit out there, but what if your brain is simply an antenna for your consciousness to come through from wherever. Has anyone actually tried to boot up an artificial brain derived from a real organism? I'd like to see a proof of concept that your brain IS indeed the seat of your consciousness, and not just a fancy quantum antenna.

> Has anyone actually tried to boot up an artificial brain derived from a real organism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWorm

Re: A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”

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The current research in Neuro is that a memory a synaptic condition, in that some synapse is structured in some way in relation to other neurons. There are W-many GABA receptors and X-many vesicles, Y-many AMPA receptors and Z-many neurotransmitters. Each receptor is in some state of flux in terms of it's age and other chemical modifiers on the protein. The synapse itself is tethered in some way and has structural pr…

> You'd need to know where pretty much every ion was and it's momentum, and I'm pretty sure that's impossible. As parent said, people do stuff like trans-cranial electric stimulation which surely changes where some ions are, yet they do not lose their personality afterwards. I'm pretty sure our brain is more robust than the exact position of every ion. Biology is very messy, and stochastic. Also note how artificial n…

I should have been more clear and said something like the 'current consciousness.' Thanks for the pointer!

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Clearly, morality and the greater good of humanity requires that we proactively euthanize any genius who hits 60. Even against their will. All assets should go to the euthanasia team to cover costs.

Do you refer to a certain Star Trek episode? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_a_Life_(Star_Trek:_The_... (Ritual suicide at age 60 embedded in culture)

Also found in Asimov's Pebble in the Sky.

Re: A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”

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Meets Altered Carbon. But if you wake up in virtual reality, when you enter your key, how can you keep them from taking it from you? You'll never know if you are being man-in-the-middled.

We constructed a whole reality to steal your keys - the world's most advanced phishing attack.

This is basically the thesis of evangelical Christianity.

Re: A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”

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This is going to sound a bit out there, but what if your brain is simply an antenna for your consciousness to come through from wherever. Has anyone actually tried to boot up an artificial brain derived from a real organism? I'd like to see a proof of concept that your brain IS indeed the seat of your consciousness, and not just a fancy quantum antenna.

Thanks for sharing this. Funny thing is, I've been thinking more and more that this seems like at least as plausible an explanation of consciousness as any, but hesitated to share the thought since, if it's not falsifiable, it's not really science (and we can't use the tools of science to verify it).

Still, I find it at least as likely as the "consciousness just sort of happens when information processing gets complex enough" explanation.

You might find this interesting https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-spin-on-the-quantum-bra...

Re: A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”

#130

This is going to sound a bit out there, but what if your brain is simply an antenna for your consciousness to come through from wherever. Has anyone actually tried to boot up an artificial brain derived from a real organism? I'd like to see a proof of concept that your brain IS indeed the seat of your consciousness, and not just a fancy quantum antenna.

In my fantasy world, I personally always thought of it as a gateway to a higher realm where our consciousness exists.
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