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Big Sugar Versus Your Body

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Re: Big Sugar Versus Your Body

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'Redo your pantry' is an important section in the linked article. My wife is really good about finding pointing out sugar in sauces that seem healthy [1], tomato sauce, catsup, etc., and finding sure free alternatives [1] https://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/10-hidde...

I was sad to learn that sauces like ketchup are mostly sugar. Even sriracha is quite sugary.

Salsa has lots of flavor, and little or not sugar.

Re: Big Sugar Versus Your Body

#72
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I believe there have been some studies that show that artificial sweeteners affect your insulin response to real sugar, but I think it's far from settled science.

i believe it was debunked: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-n...

But why consult reviews when you can rely on anecdotes?

Re: Big Sugar Versus Your Body

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I believe there have been some studies that show that artificial sweeteners affect your insulin response to real sugar, but I think it's far from settled science.

I'm not sure how scientific it is but when my wife and I got into keto we bought several sweeteners and did glucose testing at home. The tricky thing is some artificial sweeteners spiked mine, while others triggered hers. So it isn't enough to say "artificial sweeteners do | do not", you'd need to test your own reactions via blood glucose testing. So many pin pricks. Neat data though.

Agreed, this has been my experience as well - and what I've read from others too.

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When you say "slightly more expensive grocery bill", what are you comparing it to? I find that it's generally cheaper if you buy fresh meat and produce and make meals yourself, whether you compare it to eating at restaurants (a lot more expensive) or prepared/boxed meals in supermarkets (slightly more expensive than the same amount of food in fresh grocery). I suppose if you compare it to junk food, like eating chips…

> You can consistently eat healthy and get all your nutritions for under $5 a meal. +1 Except I'd change that figure to around $2/meal. This article written in 2012[0] has a $3/day target and I'm scaling that up a bit. 0. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/03/29/killing-your-1000-...

The article mentions getting protein via the forms of bean and rice, eggs, whey protein powder. No wonder you/the author can stay under $2/meal :)

As for myself, I still like to enjoy meat like beef, chicken, pork. Meat is typically the most expensive part of grocery. Even enjoying good quality meat like the ones above, one can easily stay under $5/meal!

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> You can consistently eat healthy and get all your nutritions for under $5 a meal. +1 Except I'd change that figure to around $2/meal. This article written in 2012[0] has a $3/day target and I'm scaling that up a bit. 0. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/03/29/killing-your-1000-...

The article mentions getting protein via the forms of bean and rice, eggs, whey protein powder. No wonder you/the author can stay under $2/meal :) As for myself, I still like to enjoy meat like beef, chicken, pork. Meat is typically the most expensive part of grocery. Even enjoying good quality meat like the ones above, one can easily stay under $5/meal!

You don't have to stay under $2 for every meal as long they average out to that value. It's possible to eat high quality meat while hitting that number - you just can't eat it for every meal.

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I can't remember where I read it. But there apparently is a link between something tasting sweet and your bodies insulin response. The study seemed to suggest that our upper intestines have similar cells as our tongue and can actually taste food. The result is that eating sweet tasting things that are not sweet cause a insulin serge, which the body then registers was not needed due to the lack of actual glucose incre…

Follow up studies have not born that out [0] 0: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29166970

That study shows lowering sugar and replacing it with alternatives helps loose weight. My post says using those alternatives cause diabetes in the long run -- nothing about weight loss or weight gain.

Re: Big Sugar Versus Your Body

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post #55

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I can't remember where I read it. But there apparently is a link between something tasting sweet and your bodies insulin response. The study seemed to suggest that our upper intestines have similar cells as our tongue and can actually taste food. The result is that eating sweet tasting things that are not sweet cause a insulin serge, which the body then registers was not needed due to the lack of actual glucose incre…

> You also have to step back and ask your self why so many people who avoid sugar but use artificial sweeteners are having problems with diabetes. That is a very weak argument as the products with artificial sweeteners are made for people with diabetes ... Nevertheless, a source for the first part of your argument would be very helpful.

Things being made for people never means is also a weak argument. Last I checked artificial sweeteners are not distributed by any medical organization and the recommendation for those with some types of diabetes is to stay away from sugar -- not to use something else -- but stay away. I was really not using that as a proof of anything though, it was more of something to think about as it is known we have a diabetes epidemic on hand despite all of our efforts.

That being said I wish I could find the original paper I read. I have found other studies that suggest the same thing simply by searching for "artificial sweeteners cause insulin resistance". The paper I am referring to seems to go into the why of the subject a bit more than anything I have found. If I had more time -- I don't -- I would look more. Should I ever find it I will try and send it your way although replies might be locked by that time :p

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