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Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by philliphaydon »

dmode wrote: post #48
jopsen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump acted on a recommendation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. Seems legit. I know we all love to bash Trump, but he might not be entirely evil. Sometimes he's not treated fairly, that said it's all well deserved that's for sure :)

Trump is completely devoid of ethics and morals. He had sex with a pornstar when his wife was pregnant. As a father, when my wife was pregnant that was the most surreal time of my life, where every moment of my life was precious to spend with my wife. Trump is that guy who cheats on a pregnant wife. Now evaluate this decision on these parameters and I am sure we will soon find out that this decision was funded by a c…

You go from trump cheating on his Wife to being funded. If we take the first bit away this is basically every single president and politician America has had for god knows how Long and will continue to have for ever. No decision is made because it’s the right decision. They are made cos someone slips an envelope under the table.

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by paranoidrobot »

petecox wrote: post #42
wtallis wrote: post #28

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The situation has historically been the exact opposite for WiFi drivers, where Broadcom is the obstinate closed-source vendor and Qualcomm-Atheros is the most open-source friendly vendor in that market.

Interesting times for upstream Linux support; Qualcomm also hopes to acquire NXP - the chipmakers inside the etnaviv-driven Purism phone.

NXP is also the company inside a pretty huge range of smartcard systems (eg travel cards, credit cards, etc)

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by antoncohen »

But Broadcom is an American company.

Avago was spun out of HP in 1999 (American). They were acquired by KKR and Silver Lake Partners in 2005 (both American). Listed on the NASDAQ in 2009. Bought CyOptics in 2013 (American). Bought LSI in 2013 (American). Bought PLX in 2014 (American). Bought Emulex in 2015 (American). And finally bought Broadcom in 2015, closing in January 2016 (American). Then they renamed themselves Broadcom. They moved their legal address from Singapore to Delaware in 2017. Sure their current CEO (Tan Hock Eng) was born in Malaysia, but he has been an executive at various American companies for decades.

They are American all the way down.

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by oh_sigh »

tabtab wrote: post #26
jopsen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump acted on a recommendation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. Seems legit. I know we all love to bash Trump, but he might not be entirely evil. Sometimes he's not treated fairly, that said it's all well deserved that's for sure :)

Or, his random chaotic approach may accidentally do the right thing sometimes out of shear probability. A broken clock is right at least twice a day, a random clock is right randomly.

Or, he isn't operating on a random chaotic approach.

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by jstarfish »

maxander wrote: post #29
thinkloop wrote: post #15

> "There is credible evidence that leads me to believe that Broadcom Ltd." by acquiring Qualcomm "might take action that threatens to impair the national security of the United States," Trump said in the order released Monday evening in Washington. > The government said it feared Broadcom would cut investment in research and development in order to increase short-term profits. That could allow Chinese companies to be…

I suspect the issue is that, if whole classes of chips that are important for military purposes (wireless communications, for example) are made exclusively by China, they could put in backdoors and other traps that would compromise U.S. military hardware. I haven't seen anyone discuss this angle openly, though, so either I'm off base somehow or it's not something the U.S. wants to loudly discuss (because they're like…

I'm not seeing it in this case, but the American exclusiveness is hardly a secret.

The government does not source critical tech to third-parties with international ties. Our soldiers only carry weapons made by American suppliers. Our police only drive American vehicles. Even government software needs to run on domestically-produced platforms (Xbox, generic PC).

It's not because we live in a Tom Clancy novel; we don't want to put ourselves in a position where services we depend on for safety or national security experience shortage or unavailability because of beefs with our suppliers. And we don't want Huawei or Lenovo backdooring things like routers and laptops that might be used in sensitive deployments.

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by c1utch1 »

antoncohen wrote: post #53

But Broadcom is an American company. Avago was spun out of HP in 1999 (American). They were acquired by KKR and Silver Lake Partners in 2005 (both American). Listed on the NASDAQ in 2009. Bought CyOptics in 2013 (American). Bought LSI in 2013 (American). Bought PLX in 2014 (American). Bought Emulex in 2015 (American). And finally bought Broadcom in 2015, closing in January 2016 (American). Then they renamed themselve…

Not true. Moving your legal address to the US doesn't make it a US company. The headquarters is currently in Singapore.

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by TylerE »

ajdlinux wrote: post #30
mobilefriendly wrote: post #25

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U.S. freight rail is completely privatized and it is the finest system anywhere. "our freight rail is the envy of the world, carrying over 40% of our intercity cargo. Trains carry much less of Europe’s freight, which is why trucks clog Europe’s highways. And America’s rail-shipping rates are the world’s lowest, reducing the cost of doing business in the U.S.; they’ve fallen 45% in real dollars since the industry was…

Good freight rail and good passenger rail seem to be more or less mutually exclusive. Japan has one of the lowest rates of freight rail usage in the world, and yet the Shinkansen and the extensive urban metros and suburban railways with their absurdly high schedule reliability are basically an element of national identity...

UK seems to do both pretty competently.

Re: Trump Issues Order to Block Broadcom’s Takeover of Qualcomm

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Post by googlryas »

dmode wrote: post #48
jopsen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump acted on a recommendation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. Seems legit. I know we all love to bash Trump, but he might not be entirely evil. Sometimes he's not treated fairly, that said it's all well deserved that's for sure :)

Trump is completely devoid of ethics and morals. He had sex with a pornstar when his wife was pregnant. As a father, when my wife was pregnant that was the most surreal time of my life, where every moment of my life was precious to spend with my wife. Trump is that guy who cheats on a pregnant wife. Now evaluate this decision on these parameters and I am sure we will soon find out that this decision was funded by a c…

Many problems with this post.

First, you're assuming that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it is very difficult to differentiate between 'please go away with your bullshit because it is distracting' agreement, and a 'here is some money so you don't talk' agreement. If you have special insight into this matter that has not been reported on, please do share it.

Second, you're saying he is 'completely devoid of ethics and morals' because he allegedly cheated on his wife when she was pregnant. Has no one with morals or ethics ever cheated on their wife? Do you lose your ethics and morals by cheating on your wife, or are they just never there?

Finally, let's assume this did happen. Do you know the relationship status of Donald and Melania? What if they both agreed to have a sexually open marriage before they got married? It wouldn't be too out of left field - Trump was a known playboy.

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