The only way to detoxify the internet, is to get rid of the "social" aspect. Starting with gasp comments. My online experience has been that much better, since adding comment blockers to my browser.
This is a comment though.
Reddit and the Struggle to Detoxify the Internet
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#12I would argue we don't need to detoxify the internet, stopping trolling is missing the point however we should stop the spread of misinformation, in fact sites like reddit and facebook rarely create information, they just consume it blindly without questioning the source
I'm less sure regarding Facebook (as I'm rarely on it) but there is a large amount of information created (or at least initially disseminated) on reddit. Places like /r/DIY, /r/woodworking, and countless others are chock full of original content and helpful users willing to answer questions and get into a dialogue down in the weeds.
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#13The only way to detoxify the internet, is to get rid of the "social" aspect. Starting with gasp comments. My online experience has been that much better, since adding comment blockers to my browser.
While I agree with you, and I also run a comment blocker, I find it difficult to believe that sites are going to willingly give up the engagement that comments brings.
Well of course not, I'm just telling you how to fix it!
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#14The only way to detoxify the internet, is to get rid of the "social" aspect. Starting with gasp comments. My online experience has been that much better, since adding comment blockers to my browser.
This is a comment though.
HN doesn't allow such negativity though. Reddit flourishes on it.
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#15As long as there are no consequences to being a dick to people over the internet, "toxic internet" is here to stay.
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#16Social media sites are learning the hard way that they're media properties like any other media property, and that they have to have strong editorial control over their media property to be a proper media business.
Reddit is a hive of working-class populism, which is incompatible with any advertising-oriented business. Advertisers don't want their ads next to shitty toxic content. They want their ads next to elite, well produced content. You think Calvin Klein wants their beautiful fashion ads next to a photo of a dead body?
Sure they can get 10 cent ads of your neighbor's garage sale to place next to the photo of a dead body, but to get the $5 million ad buy from Proctor & Gamble, they'll need editors to raise the quality of their content.
Detoxification is central to any ad-based business.
How quickly they learn this is the question for Reddit.
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#17It's not that the "trolls are winning", it's that people are allowing the trolls to bother them. Trolls have always existed; it's our heightened sensitivity and inability to just shrug them off or laugh in the face of their obscenity that's letting them "win".
Trying to get everyone to not be bothered by trolls is a massive and neverending undertaking.
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#18The only way to detoxify the internet, is to get rid of the "social" aspect. Starting with gasp comments. My online experience has been that much better, since adding comment blockers to my browser.
I assume the irony of writing that in a comment is not lost on you.
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#19The only way to detoxify the internet, is to get rid of the "social" aspect. Starting with gasp comments. My online experience has been that much better, since adding comment blockers to my browser.
>The only way to detoxify the internet, is to get rid of the "social" aspect. Starting with gasp comments
are you talking about the "social" comments, or commenting in general (including this site)?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a comment though.
HN doesn't allow such negativity though. Reddit flourishes on it.
Any thread about Facebook, and most threads about Apple are cesspools of negativity. I think you've got some rose tinted glasses when it comes to the kind of discourse that HN offers.