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Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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The good thing about noodlers is that they carry a waterproof range. I think they are called "bulletproof". A good resource for fountain pen lovers is https://www.nibs.com/ They do repair and custom work too.

...what is a reasonable price for a decent fountain pen?

As low as $3. Sometimes a touch cheaper if you order an erm "inspired" copy from abroad.

https://www.jetpens.com/blog/great-beginner-fountain-pens-th...

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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If you're not a caligrapher, why bother? Just buy gel pens and get the comfort with way less maintenance.

Ballpoint pens tend to have muchly less consistent lines. You could get much better looking lines just with a rollerball though. I do write mostly with fountain pens but love a week priced Uniball Vision. The lines are as consistent as with a fountain pen without any of the maintenance issues. However, it feels less nice and you don't get to use nice inks.

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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I went through a fountain pen phase for about a year and finally gave up on it after a few notable incidents.

- going through the airport was hit or miss. Bristol? Stuttgart? things are perfect. interstate travel in the US? id lost two pens to the TSA. My flight to calgary started perfectly, and ended after a half full fountain pen quietly burst in my jacket pocket. not fun.

- No one seems to know what these things are anymore? signing formal documents was met with additional scrutiny from realtors and attorneys. Id had an attorney once insist I use his pen as he was convinced the liquid in the pen was not real ink.

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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I like fountain pens a lot, but most of the times I actually need to write, I need to do so away from a desktop and fountain pens aren't ideal for these conditions (for those occasions I have the zebra 701+space pen hacked pen [e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S4bjPG5Lr4] ).

I don't quite follow?

Because they work by capillary action, if you have the pen uncapped for too long, the trail of ink on the nib can dry enough that it gives you a hard start.

Recapping and uncapping can be distracting to others. There are some pens that have a click action like a regular pen but they are SPENDY.

Some of the paper quality issues can be mitigated by the ink choice and/or nib size.

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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The good thing about noodlers is that they carry a waterproof range. I think they are called "bulletproof". A good resource for fountain pen lovers is https://www.nibs.com/ They do repair and custom work too.

...what is a reasonable price for a decent fountain pen?

The entry level Pilot, Parker and Lamy pens are pretty reliable, for between $20-50. I started with a Parker Jotter medium nib years ago, and it remains one of my favorite writers.

(ed: I’ve had magnificent $3 chinese pens, awful $3 chinese pens, and some that can be improved with fiddling. Most Americans prefer broader, more “buttery” writing, which can be hard to get from the average Chinese nib. For most beginners, then, I’d say get a basic medium nib pen from an American/European/Japanese brand.)

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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Fountain pens are one of those things that probably would have died out if not for the internet, especially on the cheaper end of the market. There are today more pens and inks to choose from than at any time in history, even times when fountain pens were widely used.

I don't know if they'd gone away. However, in school and college I used to write with one and I only every used the standard, blue Pelikan ink we were told to use in elementary school in Germany. I now have to write a lot more by hand at work and got a new fountain pen. That was the months ago or so. Thanks to the Internet I now have 4 pens three ink bottles and about 15 samples from Gulet pens...

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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To all the people who keep asking why we would bother write with a fountain pen, a few reasons I do: People are less likely to walk away or accidentally steal your fountain pen I can write in the exact colour I want I know scribbles or notes are mine without even looking at the writing My colleagues know which pieces of notes are mine without asking My notebooks never wander far I don't feel like I'm constantly killi…

> It feels better in my hand than a biro Ballpoints require one to constantly press down to keep the ink flowing. This makes writing tiring. (Fountain pens draw ink with capillary action.)

Yes - this is one thing that I really didn't realise until much later in age - writing with a fountain pen is less fatiguing.

I used to press down hard with fountain pens, like I did with ballpoints, which used to cause blotting and damage my nibs. As soon as I started buying expensive fountain pens, I changed my style completely to use virtually no pressure on the page, and I am enjoying writing so much more.

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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I went through a fountain pen phase for about a year and finally gave up on it after a few notable incidents. - going through the airport was hit or miss. Bristol? Stuttgart? things are perfect. interstate travel in the US? id lost two pens to the TSA. My flight to calgary started perfectly, and ended after a half full fountain pen quietly burst in my jacket pocket. not fun. - No one seems to know what these things a…

> an attorney once insist I use his pen as he was convinced the liquid in the pen was not real ink.

That's really funny! In Germany the opposite is true: certain transactions, like marriage licenses, are only legal if signed with a DIN standard ink guaranteed to last a century. There appears to be an ISO standard for Kugelschreiber (ball point, Byro) ink but in practice this has always seemed to be fountain pen ink (admittedly I got married over 25 years ago; perhaps things have...relaxed... a little. Kids still have to use fountain pens in school.

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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I went through a fountain pen phase for about a year and finally gave up on it after a few notable incidents. - going through the airport was hit or miss. Bristol? Stuttgart? things are perfect. interstate travel in the US? id lost two pens to the TSA. My flight to calgary started perfectly, and ended after a half full fountain pen quietly burst in my jacket pocket. not fun. - No one seems to know what these things a…

I almost exclusively sign documents with a fountain pen - because I enjoy the process, and I usually get just the precise sort of ink flow to accentuate the flourishes in my sig. I've never had anyone question it to date, in my experience, and it would be sad if it was not accepted on formal documents any more.

Actually, I have had a lot of e-signatures rejected recently, and ended up signing them with my fountain pen, re-scanning the pages and emailing them on!

Re: Fountain pen inks: the good, the bad, and the ugly (2011)

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I can write faster, for longer periods and getting less tired with a fountain pen. When I was a student I always took notes with a fountain pen, and I was the only one in the class who could log pretty much everything that was said, and with relatively good handwriting for the speed. A lot of people photocopied my notes! Maintenance depends on the pen. Some require frequent cleaning, but for example, I have a Platinu…

Hey, I would be interested in knowing about pens that do not need regular service and caring especially when not used for longer periods. Could you please suggest some good resources on it (preferably not very costly, if at all) or suggest such fountain pens?

JetPens has good guides:

From this list, I can personally vouch for the Platinum Preppy and Pilot Metropolitan. Though the Preppy is a disposable, the catridges from the non-disposable Platinum pens fit it. You could could even get an eyedropper and refill the cartridge from a bottle of ink.

https://www.jetpens.com/blog/great-beginner-fountain-pens-th...

Most of my collection is in the under $20 range, most under $2.50 and the worst I've had is the ink had dried, which took some soaking in water for a bit to get out, but this was from letting a pen sit unused for months.

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