Light does not happen by magic and tends to not occur alone. I would be very leery of asserting cause and effect here.
Sleeping in rooms with even a little light can increase risk of depression
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Re: Sleeping in rooms with even a little light can increase risk of depression
#82So does my body itself need to be protected from seeing light or just my face/eyes? I'll just get a sleep mask.
Sleep masks help a lot - but they aren't a full solution.
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#83Quick plug I started curating a list of things that may help depression yesterday over on Github https://github.com/Jimnotgym/Hacking_Depression I just added this
Please consider including links to local crisis helplines e.g. [1] and [2]. Doubtless some people in the midst of a crisis will discover this resource, and it is really important that they are aware there is immediate help available. [3] [1] https://www.samaritans.org/ [2] https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ [3] https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/mental-health-and-suicide-report...
-a once depressed person whose recovery was delayed by the association described
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Skimming the original study, it talks about subjects opening and closing their eyes, so I would very much assume that it's entirely related to seeing light (and not about absorbing light through the face or body). If you get a sleep mask, be sure to look for one designed to not put pressure on your eyes, which are not hard to find if you seek it out. The cheap ones you get at pharmacies and dollar stores put direct p…
Any brands you'd suggest?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like giving half the people blackout curtains and then monitoring depression levels would be perfectly ethical, since it's expected to improve their life, if anything.
The problem with that is the placebo effect..
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, they didn't touch the lights at all, they only measured the lights that people already were exposed to. They write that "an interventional method, such as a randomized controlled trial using a LAN exposure, is not possible because of ethical concerns".
I can’t imagine minor adjustments to light levels could ever be considered unethical. Is it unethical when a city installs a new street light?
Re: Sleeping in rooms with even a little light can increase risk of depression
#87I think a lot of studies like this are just wrong. When I was a kid, I couldn't sleep without a light on because I'd get depressed. So later on in life if I didn't remember that, I'd think that I just had a light on and now I'm depressed. I think depressed people like a little light. Much like they say red meat causes cancer, I don't think it's the red meat. I think it's how it's cooked. Red meat is usually barbecued…
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#88Meanwhile: 22. ▲ The antidepressant effect of sleep deprivation (mosaicscience.com) 389 points by onuralp 1 day ago | flag | hide | 135 comments
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please consider including links to local crisis helplines e.g. [1] and [2]. Doubtless some people in the midst of a crisis will discover this resource, and it is really important that they are aware there is immediate help available. [3] [1] https://www.samaritans.org/ [2] https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ [3] https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/mental-health-and-suicide-report...
On the other hand you may turn away depressed people who are not in a crisis because they don't want to be associated with the idea of suicide when their main problem is they have no will or energy to do anything ever. You might end up hurting these people by constantly mentioning suicide whenever they finally get the guts to learn about their depression. "Oh, you depressed? Here, read about suicide! Let me scare you…
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are fairly common throughout most of Central Europe. I stayed in apartment a few years ago that had electric shutters; it felt like I was living on a space ship.
The Dutch are known for not owning curtains [1]. I don't know if they have shutters though. [1] https://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2010/11/24/no-8-not-owning-...