Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be • Hacker News Board

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by fyfy18 » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 5:11 AM UTC

RomanPushkin wrote: post #52

I tried to play with my 4 y.o. son to NES classic games. He loved Donkey Kong County, and some other arcades, but I found games affects his behavior in a bad way. He was always asking to play more, refusing to go and play outside, working at home with books, paper, and color pens and water paints. So we're not playing for 6 months or more. He loved plasticine, and makes some really fancy and realistic animals. He lik…

I don’t have kids yet, but if I become a parent I also plan to encourage them to play more in the real world. I didn’t have access to a games console or computer at home until I was 10, so most of my youth was spent creating my own fun, usually outside.

What scares me even more is seeing parents of younger kids, giving them their phone and letting them watch episodes of Peppa Pig or similar, all the time. Guess it works to keep them quiet though...

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by gonzo41 » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 5:27 AM UTC

icelancer wrote: post #67

gowld wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a naive question. She was on the verge of re-inventing Keynesian Economics, which ended the Great Depression. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/keynesianeconomics.asp

>> Keynesian Economics, which ended the Great Depression This is a pretty bold claim and not one that should be stated as fact.

Keynesian Economics kept Australia out of recession in 08. They literally gave everyone 800 bucks. It was awesome, went out a bit more, bought lots of takeout and a few bits for around the house. And the economy kept moving.

Now if only i could figure out a way to get more people to live in my SIM tower!

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by oneweekwonder » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 5:33 AM UTC

joering2 wrote: post #59

Anyone here spent their childhood playing Transport Tycoon 2 ?? I would soent ages reinwenting and redesigning my whole network as better engines become available, until I had MagLev networks running everwhere in loops (one way so that multiple tracks where one after another). Golden times never to come back again ;(

Did a ctrl+f to find someone who mention ttd.

Transport Tycoon Deluxe, was the first game I did a all-nighter at 11 years old; parents was not happy!

But it was the first game the whole family played; and my dad liked it because he believed it thought us how to interact with windows ui's... little did he know later in live I will fall in-love with tmux(screen alternative) and groom a unix beard.

For anyone interested, there a open source version[0], true to the original.

[0]: https://www.openttd.org/en/

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by ggm » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 5:39 AM UTC

A friend makes elaborate Minecraft worlds with his five yo daughter and it echoes what is here.

But there is another darker Minecraft world he operates with entire subspecies of Minecraft being chained helplessly in dark towers making lava derived net worth in a very Faustian "it's just a machine" life. Even their bodies when done with plummet into trains, to be taken for subsequent processing. We do talk about this. Will he introduce his daughter to mechanized entity-farming? How will he vocalise the stages? "This is where the bodies are taken to be turned into chicken food for the egg factory..."

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by FPGAhacker » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 5:45 AM UTC

jsemrau wrote: post #13

There should be more collaborative games rather than competitive games. One of my fondest memories is playing Quake 2 in COOP mode at a LAN Party back in the 90s getting stuck in a mineshaft with the group way past midnight. Extremely immersive and bonding experience. We still talk about this moment years later.

I definitely wish there were more collaborative games. I like to game with my wife, and we don’t prefer games where the objective is defeating each other.

Minecraft far and away is the game we play together most of the time. Alas it has finally gotten old to us.

One Christmas we played eve online. That was a great bit of fun. Bit of a time sink though.

I wish The Long Dark had coop.

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by PhasmaFelis » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 5:58 AM UTC

IIAOPSW wrote: post #7

>He loves extreme symmetry, varying bands of bright colors, and elaborate lighting comprised of dozens of fixtures. Um I'm pretty sure if you don't go overboard on the lighting monsters spawn. This is more of an in-game thing than a preference thing.

All you need to do to prevent spawning is put torches on a regular grid, not "varying bands of bright colors and elaborate lighting comprised of dozens of fixtures."

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by pfarnsworth » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 6:14 AM UTC

bwang29 wrote: post #15

I definitely feel games like Sims and Simcity changed my perception of resource safety as a child. I played Sims/Simcity2000~3000/Civs for hundreds of hours as a kid, and I loved the "realistic" feels and setups of these games. When I started to play I always had later stage trouble when I'm overspending on building fancy roads and bridges in SimCity or buying expensive items up front. I slowly learned the way of set…

I play a lot of poker, and will risk hundreds of dollars on a single hand.

All of my 401k is in money market mutual funds.

I'm not sure that a straight up games-to-financial-decision type study would be useful, there are many different motivations between playing games or even gambling, and financial decisions.

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by zhynn » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 6:26 AM UTC

pasabagi wrote: post #32

reificator wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> don't like that the developer ripped off the idea Minecraft and Infiniminer are two very different games, similar in superficial visuals and technological implementation but completely different in terms of gameplay. Besides, if you enjoy a game and then development of that game stops, what's wrong with making your own?

I guess I think it's a bit of a tragedy that the most successful game since Doom was a copycat. It's also a shame that really creative game-makers, like ToadyOne or Zach, tend to not do that well - while Notch, who basically copied an entire game, presumably having even read the source code, is now made out of money. I've no idea about the exact mechanics of the copying - whether he just copied the idea, or copied th…

It's true they make less money, but I think ToadyOne is happier than Notch is. I don't know that Notch is as happy with the way things turned out as you imply.

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by PeterStuer » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 6:27 AM UTC

I remember my kids playing Minecraft at 6, the exploring and the building like the article describes. But by 8 they had discovered the 'other side' of Minecraft, the servers that turn the world into a low-res version of a PvP game, and most of the 'building' went out the window. My greatest times playing together with my young sons was had not in Minecraft, but in Age of Empires II (vastly preferred by all over I or III). Usually we'd play us against the AI, and they got pretty good at it so we'd sometimes play against each other as well. I think the RTS genre holds more potential for a common ground between parents and kids than either the 'virtual lego' or the FPS categories.

Re: Playing Video Games with My Son Isn’t What I Thought It Would Be

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Post by prdonahue » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 6:27 AM UTC

pfarnsworth wrote: post #77

bwang29 wrote: post #15

I definitely feel games like Sims and Simcity changed my perception of resource safety as a child. I played Sims/Simcity2000~3000/Civs for hundreds of hours as a kid, and I loved the "realistic" feels and setups of these games. When I started to play I always had later stage trouble when I'm overspending on building fancy roads and bridges in SimCity or buying expensive items up front. I slowly learned the way of set…

I play a lot of poker, and will risk hundreds of dollars on a single hand. All of my 401k is in money market mutual funds. I'm not sure that a straight up games-to-financial-decision type study would be useful, there are many different motivations between playing games or even gambling, and financial decisions.

I hope by "money market mutual funds" you mean some general sort of passive-markets based investment approach (not actually holding 100% of your 401k in cash-like instruments)?