Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 9:04 PM UTC

mabbo wrote: post #210

Looking at the photos of this guy, I'm starting to wonder if that sick little smile he has is actually his stress response. Maybe that's how he looks when he's sweating bullets and feels guilty, and we all interpret that as him being an asshole who is glad he got away with the things he's done. I've certainly known people with weirder ticks. Or maybe he's literally a horrendous human being who is rightfully hated for…

Post by davrosthedalek » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 9:04 PM UTC

Clubber wrote: post #150

elefanten wrote: post #129

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No, you're arguing the wrong topic. The linked article is about the outcome of the trial that occurred. Your 5-point "here's what happened" muddled the relationship between this sentencing and other reasons Shkreli is a public figure. And thus the "here's what happened" attitude is exactly false; what happened was a petulant fraudster got a middle-of-the-road sentence for exactly the crime he was on trial for.

You're discussing the latest chapter, I'm discussing the whole book. I'm including all the "Pharmabro" chapters over the last couple of years. Google his name. He isn't famous for fraud.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 9:06 PM UTC

dayaz36 wrote: post #204

To give some background on how his sentencing increased so dramatically, initially he was convicted but since no one lost any money his sentencing guidelines were 0-12 months(most likely no jail time since it was his first offence). As a general rule of thumb in federal fraud cases sentencing is primarily determined by the what's called the "loss amount" of the crime in question. But a couple weeks ago the judge deci…

Post by harryh » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 9:07 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #180

rayiner wrote: post #132

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Not it doesn’t. Our legal framework doesn’t oblige you to save someone’s life just because you have the means to do so. If it did, we’d all be in big trouble—for the cost of a fully loaded MacBook Pro, you could save someone from malaria in Africa. The fact that people think a particular unpopular thing shouldn’t be legal doesn’t change that. There are a lot of things people believe should be illegal that aren’t ille…

You mistakenly compare a failure to act ("save someone from malaria") with a clear purposeful action ("extorted sick poor people"). And there's no particular "higher purpose" of the law here that prevents us from making Shkreli's behavior illegal. Price gouging is illegal under other circumstances [1]; as far as I can tell his actions were legal just because nobody thought someone would be this awful. If you'd like t…

    Malaria person: please wpietri, help me.
    wpietri: No

    Sick person: please shkreli, help me.
    shkreli: Sure, for $500

Post by thewizardofaus » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 9:08 PM UTC

se30b wrote: post #32

hb3b wrote: post #14

Cruel and unusual given the crime. Half the sentence of Jeffrey Skilling who destroyed thousands of families. No question in my mind that the judge had it out for him from the get-go.

He really screwed himself over while he was on bail. He probably could have gotten off with what his attorneys wanted (around a year) if he just shut up until after the sentencing was over. But he kept trolling on livestream and twitter and acting like it was a given that he would get off easy. Obviously he was joking around with the Clinton "threat" but he should not have given prosecutors anything to use against hi…