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Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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Shkreli has repeatedly flaunted his wealth, privilege and false sense of superiority. Although not illegal, it's offensive. Offending the public, whether right or wrong, has consequences. Shkreli is getting a taste of mob justice, or just what he asked for.

You only go to jail for being offensive in authoritarian-ruled governments. If we're not better than mob justice, please install decent people in NYC's legal system.

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Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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Since when? You can always get yourself in trouble by pissing off the public, regardless of government structure.

You don't go to jail for 7 years for it. (Supposedly) not in first world countries.

You do when you also commit fraud with a 7 year sentence.

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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Here's what we just witnessed. 1. Companies were cornering certain drugs, then hiking their prices up significantly. Shkrelli did the same thing (but stated he was willing to give it free for anyone who asked). Note, that this is not illegal in any way, but news was all over it and citizens were pissed. 2. Shkrelli, being outspoken, became the focus of this issue. He dug a hole for himself, but concerning drug prices…

Well, you seem to be saying that because the investment tripled, then no crime has taken place.

That's not really how it works.

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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post #20

Here's what we just witnessed. 1. Companies were cornering certain drugs, then hiking their prices up significantly. Shkrelli did the same thing (but stated he was willing to give it free for anyone who asked). Note, that this is not illegal in any way, but news was all over it and citizens were pissed. 2. Shkrelli, being outspoken, became the focus of this issue. He dug a hole for himself, but concerning drug prices…

What you described is a perfect example of a hacky-fix vs well-engineered-solution. Treating the symptom instead of treating the problem. Our entire society is built on layers upon layers of hacky fixes. It's depressing, but look on the bright side. If you want to make a difference in the world, what a time to be alive!

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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post #20

Here's what we just witnessed. 1. Companies were cornering certain drugs, then hiking their prices up significantly. Shkrelli did the same thing (but stated he was willing to give it free for anyone who asked). Note, that this is not illegal in any way, but news was all over it and citizens were pissed. 2. Shkrelli, being outspoken, became the focus of this issue. He dug a hole for himself, but concerning drug prices…

How does 1,2, and 4 matter ? Did he defraud investors ? Yes. Was it illegal, yes ? How does it matter if he was a total douche. He would still be out and doing his thing if he didn't commit a crime.

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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post #20

Here's what we just witnessed. 1. Companies were cornering certain drugs, then hiking their prices up significantly. Shkrelli did the same thing (but stated he was willing to give it free for anyone who asked). Note, that this is not illegal in any way, but news was all over it and citizens were pissed. 2. Shkrelli, being outspoken, became the focus of this issue. He dug a hole for himself, but concerning drug prices…

> 3. Prosecutors, needing to do something got him on fraud charges where he misstated information on an investment but still tripled their money. I don't think the outcome should matter. Lying to investors should land you in jail. It shouldn't become okay "if investors still made money"

> I don't think the outcome should matter.

According to the article, "prosecutors had pushed for at least 15 years, saying Shkreli had not shown remorse for his actions"

How come the jury is allow to consider his alleged lack of remorse but is not allowed to consider the outcome? Both are current events

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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post #20

Here's what we just witnessed. 1. Companies were cornering certain drugs, then hiking their prices up significantly. Shkrelli did the same thing (but stated he was willing to give it free for anyone who asked). Note, that this is not illegal in any way, but news was all over it and citizens were pissed. 2. Shkrelli, being outspoken, became the focus of this issue. He dug a hole for himself, but concerning drug prices…

No here's what actually happened.

1. Shkreli lied to investors. Regardless of whether the investors eventually made money, Shkreli put them needlessly at risk, and broke the law.

2. He could have gone away for 15 years, or walked away with a slap on the wrist. The judge sentenced him for 7 years in prison, given the fact that this guy showed no remorse, and thought it made him likely to reoffend, perhaps with more serious consequences.

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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Not really a good analogy. They invested with him, he lost it but found another way to make that money back. There wasn't any theft.

If I give you money to invest in Alphabet stock and you instead invest it in lottery tickets, that seems like theft to me regardless of whether the lottery tickets pay off or not.

it surely does sound like people are looking for excuses for the guy. it was fraud, and he has only himself to blame.

Re: Martin Shkreli has been sentenced to seven years in prison

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post #20

Here's what we just witnessed. 1. Companies were cornering certain drugs, then hiking their prices up significantly. Shkrelli did the same thing (but stated he was willing to give it free for anyone who asked). Note, that this is not illegal in any way, but news was all over it and citizens were pissed. 2. Shkrelli, being outspoken, became the focus of this issue. He dug a hole for himself, but concerning drug prices…

The best explanation of the drug price phenomenon: http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/08/29/reverse-voxsplaining-dr... Shkreli was the just the lowest hanging fruit who a) didn't have the backing of a major pharma company to mask him and b) he also happened to enjoy the attention he get from playing the "villain" character, ironically or not, in an outrage driven (social) media culture. I also don't think it's possible t…

I'm sure there are some much more egregious and systematic violators of what we consider fair drug pricing and much worse, but they actually have the money and power that Shkreli thought he had to stay out of the limelight. Well.. he was also dumb enough to actually try to get famous on this.
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