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Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

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Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

#101
When I am hiring, I tend to use a github account with an active project as a positive signal.

It shows me they can code, perhaps in the languages I am hiring for. It also shows me they know how to use version control.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

#102
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that's just...that's just not at all what GPL is

The GPL is a license. If you don't abide by it, you don't get to download a copy of the software, sell it or create derivative works. The history of WP itself enforcing the GP is instructive. More recently, Panasonic Avionics has been sued for $100M due to GPL violations.

GPL does not force you to publish anything. But if you do publish a derivative work (including a binary) you must make sources available on request.

A WordPress-generated website is likely not a derivative work of WordPress source code. (Which is why Affero GPL exists.)

The further specifics depend on GPL version employed.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

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I do plenty of extra curricular activity.They don't involve coding. I’ve also hired developers. I have a simplified version of a real world project that we are working on. The methods are skeletons with no code and a bunch of failing unit tests. Part 1 they have to get the unit test passing. Then I give them a harder set of requirements with unit tests. They have to make the second set pass without breaking the first…

I do the same as well, I think it is a great approach. It is just a paring exercise, the language of their choice, their equipment, full internet access. We just build something like a calculator or pig latin translator. Something that you build up in layers. I usually read off the test cases one step at a time, in hopes that they write their own tests along the way. But hiring good people is very time consuming. The…

I had two positions open recently. The recruiter gave me 15 resumes, I narrowed that down to 6, spent one day doing phone screens, narrowed that down to three, invited both for the same day then I had them do the coding interview I mentioned above.

I narrowed that down to two and made offers the same day.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

#104
I very much check GitHub profiles when hiring. Even if a person has a simple project on there it shows they have interest in coding, and I can see their style of coding. That's enough to swing my judgement when I'm deciding between two candidates that are close. GitHub alone won't get you the job, but it certainly will play a positive role in your profile.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

#105

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The GPL is a license. If you don't abide by it, you don't get to download a copy of the software, sell it or create derivative works. The history of WP itself enforcing the GP is instructive. More recently, Panasonic Avionics has been sued for $100M due to GPL violations.

GPL does not force you to publish anything. But if you do publish a derivative work (including a binary) you must make sources available on request. A WordPress-generated website is likely not a derivative work of WordPress source code. (Which is why Affero GPL exists.) The further specifics depend on GPL version employed.

Ah, I'd been thinking this was a theme. If it's a site generated with WP, that's completely different.

My reaction was largely to the poster's self-righteous attitude about "theft", which has mapped to many GPL violators I've encountered.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

#106
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I do the same as well, I think it is a great approach. It is just a paring exercise, the language of their choice, their equipment, full internet access. We just build something like a calculator or pig latin translator. Something that you build up in layers. I usually read off the test cases one step at a time, in hopes that they write their own tests along the way. But hiring good people is very time consuming. The…

I had two positions open recently. The recruiter gave me 15 resumes, I narrowed that down to 6, spent one day doing phone screens, narrowed that down to three, invited both for the same day then I had them do the coding interview I mentioned above. I narrowed that down to two and made offers the same day.

You're about a 13% hire rate. Google is about 0.2%, Apple 2%, and Harvard is 7%.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

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I had two positions open recently. The recruiter gave me 15 resumes, I narrowed that down to 6, spent one day doing phone screens, narrowed that down to three, invited both for the same day then I had them do the coding interview I mentioned above. I narrowed that down to two and made offers the same day.

You're about a 13% hire rate. Google is about 0.2%, Apple 2%, and Harvard is 7%.

And not everyone wants to work for Google or Apple and not every company needs a Google level employee. Most developers are doing boring line of business apps....

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

#108

Why are we reading this post? "I've only had one job interview in the last decade or so, but as far as I could tell none of the people interviewing me checked out my GitHub profile before the interview" So that makes this guy an expert?

Should have been clearer here: I've only been interviewed once, but I've given hundreds of interviews over the same time frame.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

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Well, it is an honest question. And I don't think it is uncharitable at all. The premise of the article is that github does not help with interviews but it doesn't really provide facts to back that up.

It provides plenty of facts and data, but few anecdotes. That seems like a desirable situation.

I don't want to get into a comment war here. Let's just say I respectfully disagree that there is plenty of facts and data, and that what facts and data are there area really more of an opinion with thin data that seems to violate the new guidelines that are being brought up to say that my comment is out of place. In my opinion the author has gone out of his way to cherry pick data to support his claim and has not put effort into finding data that would prove him wrong.

Re: Why GitHub Won't Help with Hiring

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It provides plenty of facts and data, but few anecdotes. That seems like a desirable situation.

I don't want to get into a comment war here. Let's just say I respectfully disagree that there is plenty of facts and data, and that what facts and data are there area really more of an opinion with thin data that seems to violate the new guidelines that are being brought up to say that my comment is out of place. In my opinion the author has gone out of his way to cherry pick data to support his claim and has not pu…

You are welcome to your opinion about the quality of data provided by the author. But your original comment was attacking the lack of personal experience/anecdotes. That wouldn't improve things much, one way or another.
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