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Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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What a terribly written, yet interesting article. Have a look at this torture mascarading as a paragraph:

“But derivative works and adaptations can't fully explain why Christie's work endures. A splendid biography by Laura Thompson, however, does. "Agatha Christie: A Mysterious Life" was published in Britain over a decade ago and took an inexplicable amount of time to cross the pond. Yet the timing is perfect because Thompson's thorough yet readable treatment of Christie's life, in combination with artful critical context on her work, arrives at the reason for her endurance..”

For a writer writing about a writer, in the Washington Post no less, one might expect quality beyond that of a high school essay. It’s just ironic because Christie was a great writer. I have yet to find literary criticism that’s actually well written. Perhaps it’s a theory, but it always seems that literary critics are really just failed real writers.

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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I do wish though that there was greater space in public imagination for works of Hammett and Chandler, and writers of their ilk. I find hardly any new adaptations of their works being made these days.

Read the Yiddish Policeman’s Union by Michael Chabon; heavily influenced by Chandler and one of the most spectacular detective stories ever.

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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I grew up with Poirot books (thanks dad!), and have always been delighted with the movies and series featuring David Suchet. He is such a great actor, there is no one else that can impersonate Poirot like he does.

The new movie is just.... meh. Poirot(the character) has been holywood-ized for the masses... lost all the charm for me.

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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For fans of film, essentially all of Agatha Christie's mysteries featuring the Belgian detective character Hercule Poirot have been adapted by ITV into a fantastic TV series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agatha_Christie's_Poirot I find it fascinating that they did this series over a span of over 24 years, with the same lead actor (David Suchet, CBE) as Hercule Poirot throughout! There is a behind the scenes intervie…

For some reason I've always personally preferred Miss Marple to Poirot, but again there have been a fine series of adaptations of the Marple books by the BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Marple_(TV_series) When it comes to Poirot I suspect I'm biased, because I love Inspector Morse, both the original books and the excellent ITV adaptation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Morse_(TV_series) For some reas…

If you haven't already, you should really watch Endeavour, aka 'Young Morse':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavour_(TV_series)

It is very, very, good.

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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I would add "And Then There Were None" Haven't actually read Curtain, I will now immediately go buy it!

Actually, original title by Agatha Christie was "Ten Little Niggers" [1]. I didn't read the book, but I really liked the movie [2] (there is eng subs). People in reviews say it's closest and probably best adaptation. IMO, it's excellent. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoTDsuSgPBw

In France, the original title is still used ("10 petits nègres").

I read the book, but I did not really enjoyed it. But it was a long time ago, I might have been to Young. Or maybe it was the style, which was very different from what I was used to at the time (mostly Ellis Peters)

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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What a terribly written, yet interesting article. Have a look at this torture mascarading as a paragraph: “But derivative works and adaptations can't fully explain why Christie's work endures. A splendid biography by Laura Thompson, however, does. "Agatha Christie: A Mysterious Life" was published in Britain over a decade ago and took an inexplicable amount of time to cross the pond. Yet the timing is perfect because…

I'm glad I wasn't the only person who thought this. The worst bit for me was "Christie, as Thompson details, came by such understanding through the traditional means of early hardship"... but the "hardship" then isn't explained for another three paragraphs!

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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For some reason I've always personally preferred Miss Marple to Poirot, but again there have been a fine series of adaptations of the Marple books by the BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Marple_(TV_series) When it comes to Poirot I suspect I'm biased, because I love Inspector Morse, both the original books and the excellent ITV adaptation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Morse_(TV_series) For some reas…

If you haven't already, you should really watch Endeavour, aka 'Young Morse': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavour_(TV_series) It is very, very, good.

Must admit that I never got into Endeavour, but then I also preferred the Lewis series to Morse :)

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> the longer ones (which includes all of the last few seasons) click in at 1 hour and 29 minutes, some of which are based on short stories , not novels. What matters is how much content there is in the episode. People have gotten the idea from Peter Jackson's awful, awful Hobbit movies that pages of source material are a restriction on how much movie you can make. But the problem there was that the movies were terrib…

A personal question to you: Why and in what particular ways do you consider Peter Jackson's renditions of the The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit to be so awful, awful? I have enjoyed by stories since I first came across them 40 years ago. I thought that Peter Jackson did an excellent job on retelling the story. In point of fact, retelling it in a way that keeps the essence but is a new variation. When I first obtai…

Don't get me started... Ah, too late!

The Fellowship of the Ring is an excellent film, pretty consistently following the story while removing confusing elements like Tom Bombadil (some scenes, like the Moria stone troll fight, could have been a bit shorter, but overall it was really amazing).

The Two Towers started showing the early signs os Jackson's "interventionist" approach (which later culminated in the Hobbit films) with adding numerous elements like Aragorn's side trek and Gimli's and Legolas' banter -- but again, it overall added to the story without removing too much of it.

However, with The Return of the King he completely blew it, changing some important elements like Ents' motivations and, above all, the role of the Dead Men of Dunharrow. In the books, they're a formidable but reluctant force which has a strong but limited impact on the story -- they aid Aragorn's attack on the ships, scaring most of the Umbar's forces into drowning and allowing him to increase his army with the captives on the ships, but then he releases them and they never reach Pelennor.

In the film, they are turned to a deus ex machina which sweeps the battlefield and the streets of Minas Tirith, killing all the enemies and not touching the "good guys" (the book shows that the Dead Men scare everyone equally; the "good guys" survive because they are captive and chained to the ships, which probably needed a lot of cleaning afterwards). That scene reminded me of those commercials where a green goo destroys all the toilet bacteria in one powerful sweep -- in my opinion, that change totally destroyed the premise of the book and turned it from "The Return of the King" to "The Return of some Guy with Toilet Cleaner".

/rant

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What happened to 10 little Indians (or then there were none). I guess they changed the title for political correctness, unless I'm missing something? In any case, greatest mystery novel of all time.

Also the best selling, proving that the mass market sometimes gets art right. It's Agatha at her most brilliant, ruthless not only in story but in style. The English is as hard and bare as possible. IIRC it's almost all dialog and minimal dialog at that. But you don't notice because the story is such a drug. It stands apart from her other books by having no familiar characters and being completely sealed. A perfect i…

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/creative/epub/harriman/2015/fall/...

Re: Agatha Christie’s life rivaled the mysteries she created

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For some reason I've always personally preferred Miss Marple to Poirot, but again there have been a fine series of adaptations of the Marple books by the BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Marple_(TV_series) When it comes to Poirot I suspect I'm biased, because I love Inspector Morse, both the original books and the excellent ITV adaptation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Morse_(TV_series) For some reas…

If you haven't already, you should really watch Endeavour, aka 'Young Morse': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavour_(TV_series) It is very, very, good.

I watched the first few episodes, but for some reason I didn't enjoy it.

I will second the sibling comment though; I really enjoyed watching Lewis.

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